Samsung Magician Does this Look Normal?

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  1. Posts : 18,424
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       #11

    Megahertz said:
    Virtual memory is used when you don't have enough memory to hold all the required data.
    OP has 16G of memory. I think he will never use the virtual memory so to move it to the HDD wont affect performance.
    I have 8G and even rendering with Autocad, or using Photoshop, my memory usage never went over 6G.
    Now you are contradicting yourself.

    Megahertz said:
    Any file written to the SSD decrease SSD life. As pagefile.sys (virtual memory) and hibernation hiberfil.sys are huge files and are re written every time you boot.
    If you don't need hibernation, turn it off.
    run powercfg.exe /h off
    If these files are really "re written every time you boot", then it certainly does affect performance to re write those "huge files" onto an HDD v. SSD.

    And you also say move the pagefile to the HDD to save writes to the SSD making it last longer, but then you make this contradicting statement:

    Megahertz said:
    Virtual memory is used when you don't have enough memory to hold all the required data.
    OP has 16G of memory. I think he will never use the virtual memory so to move it to the HDD wont affect performance.
    So if the virtual memory is never used, then it's not going to wear the SSD with any significance at all due to excessive writes either.
    Last edited by NavyLCDR; 29 Dec 2019 at 22:34.
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  2. Posts : 118
    Windows 10
       #12

    With SSD drives surviving after being hammered with Petabytes of Writes, nobody should be concerned with Nand endurance:

    The SSD Endurance Experiment: Two freaking petabytes - The Tech Report

    I turned off Over-Provisioning on my two 840 Pro drives, preferring to reclaim the storage space. After years of use both drives are healthy, and at my current rate of use i would need to run them for about 100 years before wear would become an issue.
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  3. Posts : 299
    Windows 10
       #13

    I could be wrong, but SSD (NAND) life is not tied to over provisioning. That is extended by the wear-leveling algorithms built into every modern SSD.What over provisioning does is improve the performance of the SSD by transferring the relatively slower "erase/write" processes to dedicated areas of the SSD (very crude description).
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  4. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #14

    Magician only supports Samsung drives.
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  5. Posts : 6,247
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #15

    NavyLCDR said:
    Now you are contradicting yourself.

    If these files are really "re written every time you boot", then it certainly does affect performance to re write those "huge files" onto an HDD v. SSD.
    And you also say move the pagefile to the HDD to save writes to the SSD making it last longer, but then you make this contradicting statement:
    So if the virtual memory is never used, then it's not going to wear the SSD with any significance at all due to excessive writes either.
    I'm not contradicting myself.
    Pagefile has a time stamp from the moment you boot. I don't know if there is any kind of data on it or it is just a reserved space. But it is huge.
    As you're loading the OS into memory from the SSD (mostly reading) to write the the huge page file to the HDD should take less time as you write to a different drive while the other is reading. So performance during boot can be even better.

    It is a fact that SSD clusters die after a number of writes on it. I agree that the number is big, but if you can avoid rewriting a huge data (that you probably won't use and that can be 20G or more) on them every time you boot it is technically the best procedure.

    If you have a lot of memory you will never run in low memory, virtual memory will never be used so performance won't be affected if it is on the SSD or on a HDD.

    On my Asus Z97 - AR (with a i5, 8G and a 120G SSD + 1T HDD) I also moved the \Users to the HDD so not only the pagefile is on the HDD but also the user profile data (that is loaded during boot). And Fast Boot (BIOS) and Fast Start (Win 10) are off.
    And it boots in 14 sec. It's perfect.
    Last edited by Megahertz; 31 Dec 2019 at 09:44.
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