Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues

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  1. Posts : 495
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    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues


    I have two Samsung EVO 500GB connected via a Syba SI-PEX40064 SATA III 4 Port PCI-e x1 Controller Card I have some issues with one Samsung EVO 500GB where the OS is installed along with Malwarebytes, HitmanPro, TeamViewer, HD Sentinel, Macrium Reflect, Epson Printer and a couple of applications that do not have the option to install to another drive.
    Samsung EVO where the OS is installed S.M.A.R.T.Attribute number 199 Ultra ATA CRC Error Count records a high number of errors and S.M.A.R.T. Attribute 177 Wear Levelling count is also rising. I have changed the data cable as advised by HD Sentinel support and I am waiting to see if this has sorted the 199 Ultra ATA CRC Error Count.
    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues-2019-12-03_14-07-07.jpg
    The issue with Windows is that it sometimes becomes unresponsive. It sometime stays at the black screen with the Windows logo and the dotted circle going round and does not continue to the Choose an operating system. I powered off and powered on again and got to the sign in screen, but the screen froze. I powered off and on three times and got to the Preparing Automatic Repair screen which stayed on for 45 minutes so, I decided to power off and powered on again and this time I was able to sign in and run sfc /scannow which had no integrity violations.
    My question is are these two issues related?

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    As no one has answered I will answer myself!
    I changed the SSD data cable and up to now the CRC errors have stopped and Windows is performing as normal.
    The lesson learned is that using better quality cables or products although more expensive solves a multitude of problems.
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  2. Posts : 2,075
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    Glad it was a simple fix for you.

    Question: Why are you using the card and not the mobo SATA ports? If you're using the PCI card to add more SATA ports.....I would connect the SSD's to mobo and then add the remaining SATA devices to the PCI card.
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  3. Posts : 495
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 22H2 OS 19045.3324
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Hi Plankton thanks for your comment and question.
    I was not sure at the time I connected the SSDs if the mobo SATA ports were SATA III or not as it is a 10 year old mobo but still going strong. Now that I am dealing with the issus I will try and connect the SSDs to the mobo SATA ports. I will post back when done.
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  4. Posts : 2,075
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    I'm right there with you....I'm using a Asus M4N78 Pro. Both our boards are SATA II 3 GB.
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  5. Posts : 495
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 22H2 OS 19045.3324
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       #5

    No, my board is M4A79T Deluxe which looking at the specs now I notice that it has
    5 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports.
    I will swap the data cables around and see what happens in particular with write and read speeds.


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  6. Posts : 2,075
    Windows 10 Pro
       #6

    I said our boards have the "same SATA II ports" not the same board. SATA II ports are 3GB not 6GB which is SATA III.

    Anywho.....in real world usage you wont see a significant difference between the tow. Unless you are doing a lot of large data file transfers.
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  7. Posts : 495
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 22H2 OS 19045.3324
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    Oh I understand now the are SATA II 3GB. I am on the process of running CrystaDiskMark to compare the difference after I swap the data cables to the mobo ports.
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  8. Posts : 2,075
    Windows 10 Pro
       #8

    Your PCIe Sybia card is SATA III. As an experiment I would test 1 SSD on mobo and bench the read/write and then connect same HDD on PCIe card and bench read/write and compare. If the read/write is significantly better on the PCIe card then I would leave it on the card and put the other SSD on the mobo SATA port and use it as storage.

    The only issue I can forsee is: will the BIOS recongize the PCIe as a boot drive.
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  9. Posts : 495
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 22H2 OS 19045.3324
    Thread Starter
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    I can confirm that the BIOS does not recognise the SSDs when connected to the mobo as I have just tried it by connecting SSD drive C: to the mobo and the BIOS could not find a drive with an operating system. So, I am unable to bench read/write the SSD on the mobo.
    Both SSDs connected to the PCIe card Windows recognises them as removable device but they work perfectly OK!
    If I remember rightly this is why I had to buy the Syba PCI-e SATA III 6GB card in the first place.

    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues-c-syba.jpg
    SSD connected to the Syba PCI-e SATA III 6GB card

    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues-test-pc-ssd.jpg
    Other SSD on another pc connected to another mobo with SATA III 6GB

    So, it seems that whether connecting the SSD to the Syba PCI-e SATA III 6GB card rather than to the mobo with SATA III 6GB directly does not make that much of a difference!

    Connected the HDDs to the Syba PCI-e SATA III 6GB card and again they work perfectly OK but again Windows recognises them as removable devices!
    I will swap the HDDs back to the mobo as the leaves me two spare ports in case I want to add two more SSDs.
    Bench for the HDDs comparison on the PCIe and the mobo notmuch difference see screenshots below;

    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues-f-syba.jpg
    HDD connected to Syba PCI-e SATA III 6GB card


    Issues with Samsung 860 EVO and Windows issues-wd-f-mobo.jpg
    HDD connected to mobo port

    So the moral of this story is that with connecting SSDs to old mobos you need a PCIe SATA expansion card and the SSD will be recognised as a removable device, apart from that it works as if it were connected to the mobo.
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  10. Posts : 2,075
    Windows 10 Pro
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    So the moral of this story is that with connecting SSDs to old mobos you need a PCIe SATA expansion card and the SSD will be recognised as a removable device, apart from that it works as if it were connected to the mobo.
    No....I'm running a WD Blue 500 GB SSD on my M4n78 Pro connected to the mobo with no issues at all.

    So I'm wondering if your mobo SATA ports are bad or doesn't have the controller driver installed.
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