32 gb Ram Help

elbmek · 27 Nov 2019

I was going to up from 16 to 32, the tech store said don't bother there is no difference - so I didnt.

tzfrantic · 27 Nov 2019

Anolin said:

I've never used a memory cleaner. And besides, like I said, your non-paged pool size is waaaaaaaay high compared to "normal". So again, I suggest updating drivers - especially network drivers, as they can have memory leaks in them, which can cause the issue you're having. The memory cleaner program is just a band-aid in my opinion, and I'd rather find a permanent fix.

i have all my drivers up to date so that's why i am using clean mem it is a program that tell windows to free up any memory not used but i understand it is not the best thing to use so that's why i am looking for way to stop such high usage

Anolin · 27 Nov 2019

tzfrantic said:

i have all my drivers up to date so that's why i am using clean mem it is a program that tell windows to free up any memory not used but i understand it is not the best thing to use so that's why i am looking for way to stop such high usage

Then I'd suggest looking into using Rammap https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...wnloads/rammap to figure out what's going on. When you reboot your system, what does your non-paged pool memory look like compared to the picture you posted?

ThrashZone · 27 Nov 2019

Hi,
Said it on page one now you ask again on page two the same thing :/

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...or=-2147217396

bro67 · 27 Nov 2019

It is better for the OS to utilize RAM than use the hard drive during its operations. Look at programs running and the percentage of RAM they are using with Process Explorer from sysinternals. It could be a memory leak or you just have something running like a P2P server, etc that is using the RAM.

When investigating these types of issues, you have to close all running programs one by one, along with using a clean boot. Just looking at the graph and going “Wow”, does not give you that much information.

bro67 · 27 Nov 2019

tzfrantic said:

i am using this tool CleanMem Free/Pro | PcWinTech.com™ it calls on windows to clean any excess memory so far it reduced my ram from 77 percent to 48 percent it is a good tool to keep memory in check and to only use what windows needs?

That is a junk program. No need to run some third party program. Windows 10 is very efficient with using RAM. It is the third party programs that have issues.

Fabler2 · 27 Nov 2019

tzfrantic said:

i have all my drivers up to date so that's why i am using clean mem it is a program that tell windows to free up any memory not used but i understand it is not the best thing to use so that's why i am looking for way to stop such high usage

Have a look at what resource monitor shows ram usage.

LMiller7 · 27 Nov 2019

Task Manager can be useful with this problem but don't use the Processes tab. This often doesn't provide sufficient information for diagnostic purposes. The memory usage it shows is not the full usage of the processes. It was never meant to. And the problem may not be a process at all, and it very often isn't.

The Details tab of Task Manager is much better. But you will need to use the "Working set" column. You may need to add it from the column context menu. RAM Map is the best tool to use but as mentioned it is not easy to use.

The Non-paged pool usage is high but this must be considered in context. This is a 32 GB system and Non-paged pool usage is generally proportional to memory size. And the usge is only a fraction of the total so it cannot be the problem. I suspect it is just a symptom of the problem.

I have a low opinion of tools like CleanMem. It doesn't solve anything but simply covers up the problem. As it unnaturally alters memory values it will make diagnostics more difficult. I would not care to diagnose a memory problem on a system on which it is running. I do have a pretty good understanding of how it works. It is not as sophisticated as it may seem. The most complex part of the program is the user interface.

NavyLCDR · 27 Nov 2019

This is something I could never understand... what is the objective of having 32 GB of RAM? Did you put it in there for the computer to actually use? Or did you put it in there so you can point to it and say, "Look at that! I've got 20 GB of RAM in there not being used by anything at all! "

ThrashZone · 27 Nov 2019

NavyLCDR said:

This is something I could never understand... what is the objective of having 32 GB of RAM? Did you put it in there for the computer to actually use? Or did you put it in there so you can point to it and say, "Look at that! I've got 20 GB of RAM in there not being used by anything at all! "

Hi,
Because we can