Sluggish laptop -- any suggestions?

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  1. Posts : 3,945
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #31

    garyfritz said:
    I think this is what you mean?
    Attachment 252877
    Yes.

    Seems properly set.

    Open device manager. Is there any yellow alerts of missing drivers?
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #32

    Please update the progress with post #4 steps #11 and #12.
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  3. Posts : 3,945
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #33

    Do you have a temperature monitor?
    Downloads - Open Hardware Monitor

    If the CPU temperature is high, you may we using a lower clock to protect the CPU
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       #34

    Megahertz said:
    Do you have a temperature monitor?
    If the CPU temperature is high, you may we using a lower clock to protect the CPU
    CPU temps run 45-50°C when idling. I ran an all-core 100% CPU stress-test and the temps jumped to 80, then slowly worked their way up to 90-95.

    zbook said:
    Please update the progress with post #4 steps #11 and #12.
    I've been running in a clean-boot state since last Friday or so. I think it's better. I'm going to switch back to normal boot and see if it's noticeably worse.
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  5. Posts : 37
    Windows 10 Pro 20H1, Linux Mint 20.3
       #35

    garyfritz said:
    C: is nearly 1 TB, with 400GB free. No out-of-space problem here.

    C: is an SSD so defragging (beyond Windows' default monthly pass) is not recommended.

    I do run periodic scans with Malwarebytes, but I was answering Megahertz's question about what *antivirus* I was running.

    When I was seeing the poor performance, my CPU utilization was in the 10% range. No noticeable swapping or disk thrashing.
    But did you check whether the SSD was badly fragmented? If you run that command I suggested what was the result?
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  6. Posts : 136
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       #36

    defrag /a says defragging is not necessary. There is one 350GB contiguous free space.

    Even if it was more fragmented, I don't think defragging is necessary. SSDs have almost no penalty for random access. Windows does a defrag once a month and that should be plenty.
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       #37

    garyfritz said:
    CPU temps run 45-50°C when idling. I ran an all-core 100% CPU stress-test and the temps jumped to 80, then slowly worked their way up to 90-95.
    I've been running in a clean-boot state since last Friday or so. I think it's better. I'm going to switch back to normal boot and see if it's noticeably worse.
    CPU Temperatures should never go above 80ºC. Running above 80ºC soon or later it will die.
    What about the Radeon GPU?
    My suggestion is to buy a cooling platform.
    15 Best Laptop Cooling Pads in 2019 [Buying Guide] – Gear Hungry
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  8. Posts : 136
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       #38

    I had all 8 cores running at 100% CPU to push the temps up that high. In actual use I never load the system that hard. Right now the system is running less than 50° and that's fairly typical.

    8 cores at 100% is like driving my car 140mph. If I drove like that very often, I would want to upgrade a bunch of hardware on the car (tires, suspension, etc). But since I never take it over 90, it would be silly to waste money to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

    If I used my laptop 24x7 to train neural nets or transcode videos on Handbrake, then I'd worry. But I don't, so it's not an issue.
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  9. Posts : 3,945
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #39

    garyfritz said:
    I had all 8 cores running at 100% CPU to push the temps up that high. In actual use I never load the system that hard. Right now the system is running less than 50° and that's fairly typical.
    8 cores at 100% is like driving my car 140mph. If I drove like that very often, I would want to upgrade a bunch of hardware on the car (tires, suspension, etc). But since I never take it over 90, it would be silly to waste money to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
    If I used my laptop 24x7 to train neural nets or transcode videos on Handbrake, then I'd worry. But I don't, so it's not an issue.
    You have a Ferrari motor on a Corolla and it's over heating. You say it's OK. It's Your computer.

    i7-8705G has 4 cores.
    Intel(R) Core™ i7-8705G Processor with Radeon™ RX Vega M GL graphics (8M Cache, up to 4.10 GHz) Product Specifications
    TJUNCTION= 100ºC (Junction Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor die.)


    When you see a temp as high as 90ºC, the Junction Temperature is higher.

    As I wrote before, when CPU temperature is high, the clock is pulled down to protect the CPU.

    Run the Experience Index (attached) to see how is it performing.
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  10. Posts : 136
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       #40

    The Ferrari motor only overheats when I drive the Corolla 140mph. I just won't do that. I'm not worried.

    Experience score is fine. It dings it on Aero graphics for some reason, but general graphics is 9.9. Everything else is 8.9 or 9.1.

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