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  1. Callender's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #11
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  2. phrab's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #12

    Callender said: View Post
    Also if you can manage to edit hosts file put this at the start:

    127.0.0.1 localhost
    127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
    127.0.0.1 local
    255.255.255.255 broadcasthost
    ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
    fe80::1%lo0 localhostff02
    ::1 ip6-allnodesff02
    ::2 ip6-allrouters
    0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0

    And use a 0.0.0.0 hosts file.

    Mine looks like this:
    Thanks again.
    I will try this, if I can edit the hosts file. I use Hostman to update the hosts file. Will those lines prevent me from updating hosts using Hostman? I also have BlueLife editor.

    Oh, & what is a 0.0.0.0 hosts file?
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  3. Callender's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #13

    You can use Hostsman.

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    As far as I can work out you cannot use Hostsman to stop DNS Client Service in W10

    Anyway Process Hacker shows different to Services Manager on my machine with regards to service startup type. Maybe because I've disabled a lot of MS stuff.


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       2 Weeks Ago #14

    That's similar to what I see on my machine for DNS Client. I just assumed it was DNS Client that was preventing me from saving edits to the Hosts file. It may be some other process then, in which case I don't need to stop teh DNS Client. I'm just not sure what process is using the file, so that I can't save edits. I was able to open the file using Hostman or double clicking & choosing to open with Notepad. I just couldn't save it as a hosts file & couldn't delete or rename the original hosts file.
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  5. Callender's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #15

    According to MVPS Hosts:

    Important Note: The HOSTS file now contains a change in the prefix in the HOSTS entries to "0.0.0.0" instead of the usual "127.0.0.1".
    This was done to resolve a slowdown issue that occurs with the change Microsoft made in the "TCP loopback interface" in Win8.1.

    You can use Hosts Man before adding those entries I posted.

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    I reckon that if you used some other hosts file editor or third party security software it might have changed your hosts file to "read only" in which case you'll have to change it. Use right click > properties.
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       2 Weeks Ago #16

    I had the same issue - process using hosts file when editing using hosts man. I believe it was a misconfigured hosts file that caused the problem. I think that if you use 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 loopback it migh cause the problem. Try safe mode boot or no internet boot and see if you can edit it that way.
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  7. Callender's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #17

    If you like you could try replacing your hosts file with mine:


    You can try using this:

    I tested and it worked fine for me on W10 1809. Mind you I don't have Defender, Smartscreen or Controlled Folder Access that might interfere.


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  8. phrab's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #18

    Callender said: View Post
    If you like you could try replacing your hosts file with mine:
    You can try using this:I tested and it worked fine for me on W10 1809. Mind you I don't have Defender, Smartscreen or Controlled Folder Access that might interfere.

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    Thank you for the suggestions. I turned off the internet & rebooted Windows 10. No internet. In fact, I couldn't even bring up the action screen to click on the internet & WinXP no longer so Win10. I just rebooted Win10 & still no internet...& I couldn't access the hosts file.

    Things are getting worse:

    1. When I click on the Action screen, nothing shows up.
    2. When I press Windows key+Tab, I can't get a 2nd desktop.
    3. When I open Windows Explorer to Quick Access, icons don't show up & there's a message across the search bar saying "working on it"
    4. I just switched back to Win10 & I can again open the Action screen & create a 2nd desktop. Something is making my machine respond extremely slow.

    Since some process is preventing me from accessing the Hosts file, it's also making my computer run slow. I can't download anything on it.

    Do you know how I can find out what process is slowing my machine. I have Process Explorer, but I'm not sure how to read it. I did search for a process using the hosts file (it was one of the svchost.exe files & gave a PID number. When I found that in the Task Manager, I stopped it. However, my machine started acting worse & I still couldn't modify, rename, or delete my hosts file, which is 17,798KB, which seems large for a text file.

    Do you know how I can find the process? I really appreciate all the help. I've never had a computer act this weird before.
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       2 Weeks Ago #19

    You can try Lockhunter to see if any processes show up. Install then use right click context menu entry on hosts file.

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  10. Callender's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #20

    I've never been able to get a large hosts file to work okay on Windows 10. I think that it would require disabling DNS Client Service which was okay in Windows 7 but not in windows 10. I just live with using a smaller hosts file - the one I uploaded.

    Maybe try safe mode boot then delete hosts file. You can replace it if it works.
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