Page file - temporary creation warning at startup


  1. Posts : 31
    Win10x64
       #1

    Page file - temporary creation warning at startup


    Hello All,

    I've moved the pagefile to an external, USB 3, RAID0 volume thinking I would try and get the best out of my workstation (is that a silly thing to do in the first place? Sounds like a good idea to me anyway).

    For one I can't see the pagefile on the volume in question. And then Windows 10 keeps throwing this warning at startup ("Windows has created a temporary pagefile because of a problem" or something similar).

    What's going on?
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  2. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Pagefile on external hdd : buildapc
    How could I correct this?
    You can't. Windows initializes the pagefile before the Windows USB storage driver loads, therefore you can't put it on a USB connected external device.

    You want your pagefile accessible as fast as possible for best performance.
    No specs for your PC: how many drives do you have internally?

    Further:
    What Is Pagefile.sys and Can I Move It? - Ask Leo!

    It should not be on a USB (or Firewire) external drive. Not only are these interfaces often too slow to positively impact performance, accidentally pulling the cable will crash your machine.
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  3. Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
       #3



    Ya it really depends on how much memory your have in your workstation.

    Depending on how large your C drive is I would leave the page file on C

    1) What size is your OS drive.
    2) How much memory do you have installed ?

    I would never put the page file on an external drive.

    Just keep it on C and lower it a bit if you have to.
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  4. Posts : 31
    Win10x64
    Thread Starter
       #4

    dalchina said:
    You can't. Windows initializes the pagefile before the Windows USB storage driver loads, therefore you can't put it on a USB connected external device.
    This. Thanks.

    dalchina said:
    No specs for your PC: how many drives do you have internally?
    Well, just the one. That's why I went for the external drive (which I use as a scratch disk anyways, so no loss here).
    Guess I'll have to populate the other M.2 slot then.

    EDIT: I don't usually run out of RAM. I guess I'll just leave this whole pagefile tweaking alone. Seems like it's only useful to override Windows' management of it in a few rare cases.
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  5. Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
       #5

    Just put the page file back on C and let windows manage it.

    I am fortunate to have 32GB of memory on both of my PC`s, so I never use a page file.

    Not 1 issue, ever
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  6. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    Hi, best to leave as is normally, yes. Some people might argue best to move the page file off a SSD (wear over time due to number of writes) to a different drive, but
    a. SSDs need a huge amount of activity for this to become a problem
    b. wear levelling techniques should help to distribute the wear across the SSD
    c. moving the page file to a HDD can ->slower performance.

    One way to view page file usage:
    Inspecting Page File Usage in Performance Monitor
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  7. Posts : 31
    Win10x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    AddRAM said:
    I am fortunate to have 32GB of memory on both of my PC`s
    Same here
    dalchina said:
    One way to view page file usage:
    Inspecting Page File Usage in Performance Monitor
    Cool visualization, thanks. Will use it and see.

    As always, tweaking questions never get one final answer. It's almost always complex and different for each and every install. But I did learn, so thanks again.
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  8. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

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  9. Posts : 1,255
    Windows 10 Pro
       #9

    The pagefile can't normally be placed on an external drive simply because it is removable. If a drive containing a pagefile was removed while Windows was running a system crash is almost certain. There is no safe removal of such a drive. With some trickery the pagefile can be placed on an external drive but I have no interest in such. In any case it would be a bad idea.

    RAID0 is primarily beneficial with large files accessed serially where the improved transfer rate is useful. The pagefile is a large file but it is almost never accessed serially. Typical usage patterns is reading or writing small segments of the file from somewhat random areas mixed with accesses to other files. For this kind of access transfer rate means very little and seek time is king. RAID0 will do nothing for that.

    The best place for the pagefile is an SSD. No conventional drive even comes close. A system with 32 GB RAM and no SSD is very unbalanced and can never provide optimum performance. An SSD will benefit performance in ways that no amount of RAM can. With 32 GB RAM the pagefile will not be accessed enough for it to make any difference to performance unless you have a very heavy workload.
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