SSD Boot Time 90+ Seconds

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  1. Posts : 4
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    SSD Boot Time 90+ Seconds


    I have a Samsung 830 SSD that I've been using for a couple of years. When I first used it, I had cold boot times of ~20 seconds. I've since upgraded parts around, but kept the same SSD. But after a couple months in my latest upgrade, I notice longer boot times.

    I have the ASUS Strix B350-F motherboard, so when the computer first boots up, the BIOS screen with the ASUS ROG logo appears for about 5 seconds. Then it flashes to black. Then the ASUS ROG logo re-appears, but without the "Press F2/Del to enter UEFI BIOS" at the bottom, and these white dots spinning in a circle appear at the bottom. It is at this point where it stays at this "loading" screen for about 90 seconds before I get to the desktop (very reminiscent of the old Windows horizontal progress bar from the old XP days).

    I've listed the solutions I've tried so far and nothing that I've done below seems to have made any improvement in the boot times:

    • I made sure to enable TRIM and optimize the SSD according to this tutorial
    • I went into my BIOS and check that Fast Boot was enabled and it was set to AHCI mode. Confirmed both are the modes that were set
    • Since I have a Samsung SSD, I downloaded and installed Samsung Magician utility to see if it had any performance options to fix anything. It has a "Performance Optimization" which just brought up the Windows Defrag. I set the "Over Provisioning", but it doesn't look like its meant to speed up the boot times, just the life of the SSD by setting an unallocated partition.
    • I read that Windows might be taking the time to load its native display drivers so I updated my graphics card's display drivers.
    • I've updated the motherboard BIOS to the latest version on the ASUS support website.
    • Since it was an old SSD from an old PC that ran Windows 7 and moved to a newer build, when I first put Windows 10 on it, it was still running in legacy mode and not UEFI. I changed it to boot BIOS mode to UEFI mode a couple months ago, and I think this might be around the time I noticed boot times getting longer. Confirmed it changed BIOS Mode to UEFI under "msinfo32". I didn't do a clean install of Windows 10 and now I wonder whether or not I should have done that.
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  2. Samuria's Avatar
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    Welcome to the forum. Have you updated the SSD firmware as a lot of their drives ahev updates. Tyrn off fastboot as its not needed on ssd
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  3. jds63's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Version 20H2
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    Could be a third party app loading at starting up.


    • Press and hold "Ctrl + Shift + Del" keys simultaneously to invoke Task Manager.
    • Then select the "Startup" tab and find out the unnecessary process with high startup impact and then hit the "Disable" button.


    Personally i would try a clean install and make sure all hardware drivers are up to date. Which latest upgrades were done ?
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  4. Posts : 4
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    Thread Starter
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    Samuria said:
    Welcome to the forum. Have you updated the SSD firmware as a lot of their drives ahev updates. Tyrn off fastboot as its not needed on ssd
    I checked an no firmware updates required. I tried with Fastboot in the BIOS enabled and disabled and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

    jds63 said:
    Could be a third party app loading at starting up.


    • Press and hold "Ctrl + Shift + Del" keys simultaneously to invoke Task Manager.
    • Then select the "Startup" tab and find out the unnecessary process with high startup impact and then hit the "Disable" button.


    Personally i would try a clean install and make sure all hardware drivers are up to date. Which latest upgrades were done ?
    Disabled some more stuff in the Startup, it helps, but only made the boot time about 10 seconds faster. Still 80 seconds feels too long.
    As I said, I'd like to avoid a clean install simply because it takes up 2+ hours (making the backups, wiping, re-downloading, re-installing, and reconfiguring all my programs and fixing all my shortcuts and symbolic links)
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  5. Steve C's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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    You might need to do a Boot Trace to work out what's wrong - search the forum. Your boot time to the user login screen should be c. 20 secs. You could try booting into Safe Mode which loads minimal drivers. If that is faster then you have a driver issue. Also use Autoruns to check / disable items loading at startup.

    These issues have previously delayed my boot time:

    1. Presence of an active partition on a secondary drive which confused the boot process - set to inactive using Minitool Partition Wizard
    2. Hardware initialisation with an old DVD drive - had to decommission the drive
    3. Malwarebytes configuration - had to reinstall
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  6. AddRAM's Avatar
    Posts : 3,858
    Windows 10 Pro x64 20H2
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    Motherboards, at least goods ones today, do a lot of checks before even get to the POST, but 90 seconds seems excessively long, make sure you have everything in the Bios set to the shortest time possible.

    You can`t just change an install from Legacy to UEFI like that, it will definitely have consequences, you need to do a clean install Set things right again.

    There is nothing in the Samsung Magician software that will speed up your PC, Rapid mode is useless, Samsung Magician itself is pretty useless, it does not always tell you if you need or if new firmware is available. Find that at Samsung.
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  7. jds63's Avatar
    Posts : 3,139
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    abc617 said:
    I checked an no firmware updates required. I tried with Fastboot in the BIOS enabled and disabled and it doesn't seem to make a difference.


    Disabled some more stuff in the Startup, it helps, but only made the boot time about 10 seconds faster. Still 80 seconds feels too long.
    As I said, I'd like to avoid a clean install simply because it takes up 2+ hours (making the backups, wiping, re-downloading, re-installing, and reconfiguring all my programs and fixing all my shortcuts and symbolic links)
    What about the Health of this SSD and S.M.A.R.T status, any programs you have to check it, what did Samsung Magician say about Health ? How full is this SSD, only being 120GB ? Being an older 830 model and used for Windows 7 before. You should always make backups of everything on an external device. Good to have a copy of the newest version of Windows 10 on USB thumb drive.

    https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/
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  8. Posts : 119
    Windows 10
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    If you also have a hard disk, ensure that none of the boot process is using it instead of your SSD. With UEFI, if partitions are replicated on the HDD, it can sometimes be difficult to ensure that the SSD is being used throughout. But since you were Windows 7, it seems unlikely that your HDD is a GPT disk, although not impossible.

    When I first installed my SSD, I cloned the original HDD and had trouble ensuring which disk was in use during boot. Eventually, I deleted the System partition from my HDD to ensure that I was booting from my SSD.
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  9. bro67's Avatar
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    Mac OS Catalina
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    Since the 850 EVO drives are pretty cheap these days, upgrade. That 830 may be showing its age and would be slower than the newer SSD's.
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  10. Ztruker's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 20H4 19042.746
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    You could take a boot trace and see what it shows: Here is some info I've collected on doing this:

    Good info here: How to collect a good boot trace on Windows 10 or Windows Server 2016 using WPRUI

    See here for some hints on how to use the data: Analyzing a Slow Boot with Windows Performance Recorder & Analyzer

    ... and here: Windows Performance Analyzer step-by-step guide
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