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  1.    09 Aug 2015 #21
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    I agree with both of you, the problem is the shutdown. Could you please check if disabling the bluetooth device solves the issue ?
    In my case it does, so I do have where to start looking. Unfortunately I am looking but I dont see anything !!!!!
    Thx.
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  2.    09 Aug 2015 #22
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by elito View Post
    I am running an i7, 16gb RAM and a 512gb SSD. The "weak hardware and slow HDD" does not apply.
    Defrag is not recommended for SSD drives.
    Nobody found relevant the bluetooth issue ? Why disabling the bluetooth gets me back to 21st century reasonable reboot times ?
    Thanks.
    Yes, your issue over Bluetooh may be relevant. I run a System with i Quad q6600 - 4GB RAM Dual Channel - SSD Crucial MX 100 256GB - and the time of shutdown is <2 sec. The Startup time is only 7 seconds. And yes, my bluetooth Service and relates with him, are disabled.
    But, I run a clear installation and - very important - The Fast Startup feature of Windows is able. This is, more of the times, the secret.
    Hope you can solve your trouble.
    Last edited by Enrique; 09 Aug 2015 at 14:35. Reason: Correction word ones
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  3.    09 Aug 2015 #23
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    Why do you have the Bluetooth disabled ? Because you dont have any Bluetooth devices or because it causes problems ?
    I do have the Fast Startup enabled.
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  4.    09 Aug 2015 #24
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    Brooklyn, NY
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    Windows 10 Home

    I disable anything I don't need running using Autoruns but I agree that Windows 10 is more sluggish after bootup than Windows 7 or 8 was.
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  5.    09 Aug 2015 #25
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    Upstate NY, USA
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit

    I have always had a black screen in between the Windows logo screen and the "please wait" or Welcome screen, even in 8.1. I always considered it normal and never worried about it. It still does the same from a cold boot or restart (I have hibernation disabled so fast boot doesn't work). My boot time is about 85 seconds from my 7200 RPM HDD and I'm satisfied with that. Immediately after the upgrade and before doing the defrag and registry clean, it was well over 3 minutes.

    If you wait long enough, the Windows Auto-maintenance will kick in and use the Windows defragger to optimize things but you may have to wait up to a week and even then, the process is painfully slow.

    I also have Windows set to automatically log me in so I never see the Lock screen.
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  6.    09 Aug 2015 #26
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    10 x64

    I believe your times are a little bit to high. Should check startup items and Event viewer as Snakeyes suggested some posts before

    "Type in event viewer in your start window.
    In the window that opens up (left-hand side) click on Application and Services Logs/Microsoft/Windows/Diagnostics-Performance..
    Tap on operational (still on the left-hand side)


    On the right-hand side you will see (center panel) successive event IDs. Each will have an execution time associated with it. Event IDs 100 reflect boot performance. Event IDs 200 – 20x reflect shutdown performance. If you double-click on any one of them and then click on the details tab you will get a rundown of the boot or shutdown process and the Durations associated with each. Comparing different event IDs reflecting different reboots will give you a good idea regarding the delays in shutdown or boot."

    Hope this will get you better time.
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  7.    09 Aug 2015 #27
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    Upstate NY, USA
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by elito View Post
    I believe your times are a little bit to high. Should check startup items and Event viewer as Snakeyes suggested some posts before

    "Type in event viewer in your start window.
    In the window that opens up (left-hand side) click on Application and Services Logs/Microsoft/Windows/Diagnostics-Performance..
    Tap on operational (still on the left-hand side)


    On the right-hand side you will see (center panel) successive event IDs. Each will have an execution time associated with it. Event IDs 100 reflect boot performance. Event IDs 200 20x reflect shutdown performance. If you double-click on any one of them and then click on the details tab you will get a rundown of the boot or shutdown process and the Durations associated with each. Comparing different event IDs reflecting different reboots will give you a good idea regarding the delays in shutdown or boot."

    Hope this will get you better time.
    The heck with that. Every single event in there either says error or warning and the times are all in ms. It also gives me no clue on how to change anything. I don't have the time nor inclination to look through all that crap. Like I said, I'm satisfied with my boot time. It was just about the same in 8.1, and everything works fine. I monitor my startup items and only let run what I want and I really don't think much of anything can be done to improve things other than turning off stuff that I want to be on. I use Classic Shell because even the new Start Menu is not good enough and I have a few custom scripts in Startup to disable the side buttons on my mouse and to turn on Scroll Lock so my keyboard lights up automatically at start. The other items include Java update, a great little utility called Clipboard Magic, CCC, my sound panel, Chrome updater, and the CCleaner and Speccy stuff to skip the UAC when opening them. Everything that loads, I need and want.

    I did enable Hibernation and try Fast Boot. With that on, my cold boot time was 37 seconds but I'd rather get a completely fresh load of Windows at boot so I turned it back off and went back to 85 which as I said, is just fine to me.

    The times are measured from the press of the power button to the loading of the things in the Startup folder which always load last. The time from pressing the power button to when the BIOS posting is done and the Windows logo comes up is 15 seconds in itself.
    Last edited by Dch48; 09 Aug 2015 at 17:53.
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  8.    09 Aug 2015 #28
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    Brooklyn, NY
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    Windows 10 Home

    Also I forgot to say to also turn off that useless Cortana. With it on my Core 5 PC felt like I running on a 486 on startup.
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  9.    09 Aug 2015 #29
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    Upstate NY, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddice View Post
    Also I forgot to say to also turn off that useless Cortana. With it on my Core 5 PC felt like I running on a 486 on startup.
    Yep, Cortana is completely turned off as are the Search window and Taskview buttons in the taskbar. I have no use for any of those.
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  10.    10 Aug 2015 #30
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    Windows 8.1

    Quote Originally Posted by mkdr View Post
    Do you mean with 40sec-1min that you have a black screen before the login appears? Because that's some bug which also could already happen on Windows 8.1 too, I had it so far on three different machines and never figured out what was causing it.
    Just finished building my new system about a month ago. With 8.1, my boot time was about 13 seconds. That's the way it stayed right up until I installed Windows 10 last week. After getting tired of the bugs in 10 (mainly my start button not responding), I rolled back to 8.1. Now my boot time is over a minute of just sitting at a black screen, and when it finally loads to my login screen, my USB mouse takes another 30 seconds before it starts working.

    Is this something I can fix? If I had known rolling back from 10 would screw up my system like this, I'd not have done it.
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