Optimize Drives says I have SSD when I have HDD


  1. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 Version 1903 64-bit
       #1

    Optimize Drives says I have SSD when I have HDD


    As a result it won't let me optimize the drive. If this helps I'm running fall creators update (1709) and the hard drive from device manager is specifically "Intel Optane+931GBHDD".
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  2. Cliff S's Avatar
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    Windows differentiates a SSD from a HDD only by the read & write speeds, as an SSDs controller "lies" to the operating system and says it's a HDD(long story), so when it does maintenance on of the things it test is drive speed to see what you have.

    This is another reason to run winsat formal when swapping a cloned/reimaged SSD for a HDD, so Windows knows about the it.

    So I'm guessing(just guessing) the Optane cash drive is running fast enough that Windows thinks it has a SSD.
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  3. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 Version 1903 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Cliff S said:
    Windows differentiates a SSD from a HDD only by the read & write speeds, as an SSDs controller "lies" to the operating system and says it's a HDD(long story), so when it does maintenance on of the things it test is drive speed to see what you have.

    This is another reason to run winsat formal when swapping a cloned/reimaged SSD for a HDD, so Windows knows about the it.

    So I'm guessing(just guessing) the Optane cash drive is running fast enough that Windows thinks it has a SSD.
    That command didn't work for me but that is probably the reason tbh because optane memory does act sort of like an ssd.
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  4. Cliff S's Avatar
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    Madpoli said:
    That command didn't work for me but that is probably the reason tbh because optane memory does act sort of like an ssd.
    No that command is to let the system see a new SSD, it do anything in your case.

    Try manually defragging in command prompt:

    Here is something I wrote up years ago to help me remember:

    Tip   Tip

    Get the most of Windows own Disk Optimizer/Defragmenter

    Some Command Line(Admin.) commands to get the best out of Windows defragmenter:

    Note: Must be run as Administrator:

    Windows Boot Optimization
    Code:
    defrag c: /b /v /u


    Windows Space Consolidation
    Code:
    defrag c: /x /v /u


    7. c: is the system drive (you can change it to any drive/partition letter you need/want.
    8. /b is for boot defrag and arranges you files need for booting windows.
    9. /x is for empty space consolidation so reducing further fragmentation of files and programs by giving them more free space to grow/write
    10. /u lets you see the progress in the command prompt
    11. /v is for the statistics

    One can also make a batch file to these commands automatically:

    12. Open Notepad
    13. cut & paste code into Notepad, tab, type "pause" example:
    defrag c: /b /v /u
    defrag c: /x /v /u
    pause
    14. Save as "BootSpaceConsolid.bat" / for file type choose "All Files" from drop-down and choose where you want to save it to (Documents or Desktop)
    15. Now all you have to do is right click the gear icon and run as Administrator.
    Note: To assign a drive just change the drive letter.
    You can also add more lines and optimize free space consolidation on more drives one after another.

    Example:

    defrag c: /b /v /u
    defrag c: /x /v /u
    defrag f: /x /v /u
    defrag g: /x /v /u
    pause
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  5. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 Version 1903 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Cliff S said:
    No that command is to let the system see a new SSD, it do anything in your case.

    Try manually defragging in command prompt:

    Here is something I wrote up years ago to help me remember:

    Tip   Tip

    Get the most of Windows own Disk Optimizer/Defragmenter

    Some Command Line(Admin.) commands to get the best out of Windows defragmenter:

    Note: Must be run as Administrator:

    Windows Boot Optimization
    Code:
    defrag c: /b /v /u


    Windows Space Consolidation
    Code:
    defrag c: /x /v /u


    7. c: is the system drive (you can change it to any drive/partition letter you need/want.
    8. /b is for boot defrag and arranges you files need for booting windows.
    9. /x is for empty space consolidation so reducing further fragmentation of files and programs by giving them more free space to grow/write
    10. /u lets you see the progress in the command prompt
    11. /v is for the statistics

    One can also make a batch file to these commands automatically:

    12. Open Notepad
    13. cut & paste code into Notepad, tab, type "pause" example:
    defrag c: /b /v /u
    defrag c: /x /v /u
    pause
    14. Save as "BootSpaceConsolid.bat" / for file type choose "All Files" from drop-down and choose where you want to save it to (Documents or Desktop)
    15. Now all you have to do is right click the gear icon and run as Administrator.
    Note: To assign a drive just change the drive letter.
    You can also add more lines and optimize free space consolidation on more drives one after another.

    Example:

    defrag c: /b /v /u
    defrag c: /x /v /u
    defrag f: /x /v /u
    defrag g: /x /v /u
    pause
    It actually lets me do it, thanks for the help!
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  6. Cliff S's Avatar
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       #6

    Madpoli said:
    It actually lets me do it, thanks for the help!
    You're welcome
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  7. Ztruker's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 1909 18363.815
       #7

    So what is the make and full model number of your hard drive?

    Intel Optane is basically a cache that sits between your 1TB HDD and the CPU from what I read.
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