Windows Performance Analyzer vs Boot Phases (where is it?)

Hi,

I followed the posted how-to on this forum and installed the performance toolkit and recorded my pc while its booting. I'd like to take a look at what's causing my boot time to be 4 minutes of the Windows logo and swirling dots. However, I can't find the Boot Phases section within the WPA app. I don't have the "Other" category in the left pane, which it seems like where Boot Phases is supposed to be. From what I can tell, Boot Phases is *the* category that will tell me what the boot delays are.

So, the simple question is, where do I find the Boot Phases section?

Thanks

PS: I used all of the recommended settings in the WPR gui

See this link for the download:
Windows performance recorder - Microsoft Community

On the webpage is an image for record system information > performance scenario > boot > click on the arrow for choices

Thanks for the quick replies.

zbook, as I mentioned, I've already downloaded, installed, and taken a boot trace, using all of the recommended settings in the recorder. However, the analyzer is not displaying the Boot Phases information, which means I suppose that I can't analyze what's causing the delays in my boot time.

Please see the attached image. I am missing the "Other" category on the bottom left, which is where Boot Phases is supposed to be. Any idea where it is or why its not showing up?

Ztruker, yep, I've read through all the docs on the MS site about the analyzer, but I could find no mention of anything related to the Boot Phases category, or where to find it. Any ideas?

Does anyone see the Boot Phases category on the analyzer app? If so, what version of the app are you using? Maybe MS has changed something in the most recent version of this app?

Perform some preliminary troubleshooting steps:

1) Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:
2) sfc /scannow
3) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
4) chkdsk /scan
5) When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

6) msconfig (in the pop up system configuration > move the dot from normal startup to selective startup > uncheck load startup items > click service tab > in left lower corner check hide all Microsoft services > in the lower right side click disable all > click apply or ok > do not reboot)


7) taskmgr (in the pop up task manager > click on the start up tab > click on status so that the column sorts with enable rising to the top > right click on each row with enable and change to disable)


Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts | Windows 10 Tutorials

8) shutdown /r (you will reboot the computer so that it is in clean boot)


8) Evaluate the performance on your computer in clean boot during typical use.
a) Are the boots faster or slower?
b) Are the shutdowns faster or slower?
c) How has the video performance changed? Is it better, worse, or the same?
d) Continue using clean boot indefinitely to monitor performance.

9) When there are problems with software or boot or both there could be an underlying problem with Windows that may or may not be detected with scannow or restorehealth. Consider performing an in place upgrade repair using a Windows 10 iso and reinstalling the software.
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10) Sometimes for the troubleshooting it is useful to view the computer log files (dxdiag, msinfo32, event logs, etc.) If the above steps do not impact the boot or the problem with WPR the logs can be troubleshooted.

Btw, below is an example of the analyzer app showing the Boot Phases category, within the Other section on the bottom left. I found this image on a technet article: Windows 10 Slow Boot

Yes, I've done all of those steps, with the results that no errors were reported with sfc or dism or chkdisk.

And I've done a safe mode boot and also a clean boot, but the 4 minute boot delay stays the same, just sitting on the windows logo.

The problem started sometime in the last few months, perhaps after a windows update.

1) Update the specs in the "My Comptuer" section:

System Specs - Fill in at Ten Forums | Windows 10 Tutorials
In the left corner below in your post you find 'My System Specs'.
After clicking it you can find a link a little below that says 'Update your System Spec', click on this link to get to the page where you can fill in your system specs.
System Info - See Your System Specs - Windows 7 Help Forums
Include PSU. cooler, case, peripherals and anything attached to the computer by wired or wireless (mouse, keyboard, headset, printer, xbox, USB wireless network card, etc.)



2) There are limited number of people that can interpret the WPR recordings.

3) See what happens to the boot with these steps:

4) Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:
5) Powercfg -h off
6) shutdown /r
7) (Evaluate the boot multiple times and indicate the changes)
8) Powercfg -h on
9) shutdown /r
10) (evaluate the boot multiple times and indicate the changes)

11) If there are changes to the boot then see what happens when fast startup is turned off and on:

Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

Can you share your boot trace?

Some updates:

I was able to finally find an answer on how to see the Boot Phases. One non-obvious way of seeing them in WPA is to open your boot trace .etl file, and then click on Profiles > Apply > Browse Catalog > and select FullBoot.Boot.wpaprofile. After the profile loads, click on either the Timeline or Deep Analysis tabs up top, and look at the FullBoot sections.

I've taken numerous boot traces while trying different WPR and PC and Windows configs, and they all show me the same thing, which is that my Boot Main Path (the total time spent until you see your desktop) is always <14s. That's an excellent boot time, though my total boot time is actually 4 minutes. And I think what that means is that the big boot delay that I'm seeing is happening before the WPR boot trace has even started. This is very similar to a post I saw on superuser (https://superuser.com/questions/1320...reme-long-time) and my FullBoot chart's details are basically the same as Thomas' on there.

I have tried disabling/re-enabling the hibernate settings, but they made no difference in my boot time when restarting Windows.

I'm willing to share a boot trace if you think it might give some insight? But given that my recorded boot time is under 14s then I'm not sure what helpful things the trace will show.

I guess my new big question is the same as Thomas on that other post:

How can I see or analyze what happens before the boot trace begins?

It appears that Windows 10 no longer has the "OS boot information" feature (as set in msconfig) that shows you the drivers as they're loading (instead of the logo). That would help heaps here I think.