Windows Performance Analyzer vs Boot Phases (where is it?)

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  1. Fin
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #11

    I also did a boot trace with ProcessMonitor and WinBootInfo, and though they can't give detail into what's causing the delay, they both show that there is a 4 minute delay at the start of boot.

    On the WinBootInfo screenshot below, the total boot time is <25s, but the boot to session manager is 241s, or just over 4 minutes. And on the right it shows a 4 minute gap between the kernel starting to load and the first system driver loading.
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  2. Posts : 897
    windows 10
       #12

    And in WPA you can't see the 4 min delay !
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  3. Posts : 41,455
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #13

    Many years ago I had used free software that reports the boot time for every bootable file.
    With this software you were able to turn off any item on boot or delay the launch for after the boot.
    This software is no longer available and the company that had the free software was turned into a services company.
    See if you can find any old links for Soluto downlodable software.
    Then see if there are any companies on downloads.com that may have similar free software.
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  4. Posts : 3
    windows
       #14

    It is relatively easy to create the recordings. The challenge will be to learn how to interpret them. Sometimes it can take a while to find someone to interpret them.

    If you had problems during regular use that your were diagnosing you would use administrative command prompt and launch the application using wprui.exe

    If you are using it for boot problems then you would choose the performance scenario as boot. Then you would make 3 boot recordings. If you were doing your own analysis you would use the verbose recording. If you were posting it you would use the light setting. The logging mode is changed from the default memory to file.

    There is a slower method but an alternative method to work on your slow boots.

    Place your computer in clean boot and compare the start up times. If there is significant improvement with clean boot then you know that it is one of the non-Microsoft applications that is impacting the boot.
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  5. Fin
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    zinou:
    Yeah, that's the sucky part of all this :-/

    zbook:
    Hey, I remember that Soluto app! I'd tried it when it first was out, it was pretty slick. Too bad they killed it. I did some searching but haven't found a copy of it yet.

    abriolitto50:
    Thanks for the tips, but the clean boot takes just as long as a normal boot :-(
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  6. Posts : 41,455
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #16

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  7. Fin
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Thanks, I've been saving the in place upgrade for (almost) last, and I'm running out of options so I may need to do that. But first I have a few more ideas to try, and then some backups to make.

    Thanks again!
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  8. Posts : 3
    windows
       #18

    abriolitto50 said:
    It is relatively easy to create the recordings. The challenge will be to learn how to interpret them. Sometimes it can take a while to find someone to interpret them.

    If you had problems during regular use that your were diagnosing you would use administrative command prompt and launch the application using wprui.exe

    If you are using it for boot problems then you would choose the performance scenario as boot. Then you would make 3 boot recordings. If you were doing your own analysis you would use the verbose recording. If you were posting it you would use the light setting. The logging mode is changed from the default memory to file. 8 Ball Pool Google Hangouts Omegle

    There is a slower method but an alternative method to work on your slow boots.

    Place your computer in clean boot and compare the start up times. If there is significant improvement with clean boot then you know that it is one of the non-Microsoft applications that is impacting the boot.
    There is a slower method but an alternative method to work on your slow boots.

    Place your computer in clean boot and compare the start up times. If there is significant improvement with clean boot then you know that it is one of the non-Microsoft applications that is impacting the boot.
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  9. Fin
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    A quick update on my original issue:

    I did the repair install (in-place upgrade) and it fixed my slow boot issue! It went from sitting 6 minutes on the initial Windows boot logo and spinning circle, to now, it takes just 8 seconds. What a difference.

    It took me a while to prep for and set up a second bootable drive as a backup of my pre-repair boot disk. But after getting that done, the repair install was easy to do and went without a hitch.

    I have a lot of customized Windows settings, and I was afraid that these would get reset during the repair process, but most of them came through untouched. After using the repaired Windows desktop for a few weeks, there were only four things so far that I've discovered that were modified, including two random start menu shortcuts that for some reason got deleted.

    This was my first repair install, and its a good one to have in your toolkit of fixes.
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  10. Posts : 41,455
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #20

    That's great news.
    Glad to see the slow boot fixed.
    For startup and recovery system failure it typically changes an unchecked automatic restart back to the default checked box automatic restart.
    So that's good that it was able to maintain many of the custom settings.

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    In case there are unexpected problems you can restore a backup image typically in less than one hour:

    power outages
    malware
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    corruption of the operating system
    corruption of the registry
    failure to boot
    slow boot
    etc.
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