MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?

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    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?


    I know what I'm going to suggest isn't an obvious thing around here. So I have to first explain my perspective on RAM before I can even talk about a 'memory leak' or what might be called 'RAM hogging'.

    In Windows 10 I know of two places I can check RAM usage. Task Manager and Resource Monitor. If I do a fresh boot and open Firefox with a handful of tabs, I get this from Task Manager --

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-12_35_31-task-manager.jpg

    But if I open Resource Monitor I see this --

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-12_34_33-resource-monitor.jpg

    See that blue line of 'standby' RAM? I know there are people who will swear up and down and left and right that standby RAM isn't really used RAM at all. That it's 'reserved' to help my open apps run better.

    Perhaps it is but I can assure you of this -- once that blue line grows to take up the remaining available 'free' RAM... the system starts acting buggy. Typing in Firefox suddenly goes to a crawl.

    How do I know this? Whenever typing goes to a crawl I open resource monitor and, sure enough, that blue 'standby' RAM has filled everything up. And the issue goes right away with a reboot.

    I find that it usually takes about 4 or so hours for that blue line to eat up the remaining free RAM. Until recently when it expands seemingly much faster. So much faster I call it a 'memory leak'. If that is not the right term for this I kinda don't care because that's the experience of it. Either the system or an app is munching up RAM out of normal parameters.

    So now that this has been explained do you experience this? Do you think it's Firefox or a recent system update?
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    Firefox before and after cumulative update KB 4346783. Is it possible Firefox was updating?
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    Stitch194 said:
    Firefox before and after cumulative update KB 4346783. Is it possible Firefox was updating?
    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-ff-before.png MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-ff2.png
    Your first one has 7 FF processed, second only 5. This processes are dynamic depending on the load and how you have the setting...default of 4 or max of 7. And what's in the open tabs. Vids are always gonna be higher, and text lower. And somewhat dependent on how much is off-loaded to the GPU. I have 8 (base +7), with 12 tabs open. It's really hard to nail that down. Very dynamic.

    This has been pretty consistent, before and after latest update.

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    Thanks Dick. I find it strange that my Task Manager doesn't show process names?
    Firefox (typical) cumulative update KB4346783 downloading.
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    Stitch194 said:
    Thanks Dick. I find it strange that my Task Manager doesn't show process names?
    Firefox (typical) cumulative update KB4346783 downloading.
    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-capture2.png
    Choose your columns....right click any heading.

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  6. Posts : 430
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       #6

    Thanks! I just figured it out before you posted. LOL
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    This ain't a one time thing. I've been noticing it for a week or more.

    So I wanna show y'all something. I posted the above threat. Hit YouTube for 30 minutes. YouTube makes my fan kick on my VivoMini PC. (Annoying.) Anyway -- here's what things looked like after that.

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-13_57_28-resource-monitor.jpg

    Then I stepped away from the computer for over an hour. Here's what I saw when I got back.

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-15_13_05-resource-monitor.jpg

    From my Mac days I'd call this a leaky. And my Windows PCs do NOT do this. Until now.

    I'm going to do a new test shortly and not include FF at all.
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    Hi,
    Yeah I read firefox was adding some stuff for crypto blocking.. that might add some memory usage increases...
    All browser seem to use way too many resources now days for sure

    Think firefox is bad try chrome lol

    Might add isn't adding the process name sort of well redundant :?
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  9. Posts : 819
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    At 3:17... almost nothing open...

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-3-17-test.jpg

    A closeup for you

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-16_32_32-photos.jpg

    An hour later... after having done nothing but check in on RM and TM

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-16_22_26-task-manager.jpg

    Closeup

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-16_34_33-photos.jpg

    I'm curious what Edge is doing. Since it's not open. Not a big deal RAMwise, but still.

    So I open Firefox. Huffpost, Facebook, Messages for Android, and this board. Behold --

    MEMORY LEAK after cumulative updates?-2018-09-03-16_36_16-resource-monitor.jpg
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  10. Posts : 7,724
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    Hi,
    Edge is just reading it's self in case someone actually uses it lol :)
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