Windows Antimalware Service Executable slowing down Firefox


  1. Posts : 132
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    Windows Antimalware Service Executable slowing down Firefox


    I seem to have an issue with the afore mentioned task. Whenever I start Firefox the task goes crazy, using about 30% of my CPU for several minutes. This is significantly more than other browsers. I have a second PC that is configured exactly the same but does not have this issue.If I disable real-time virus processing in Windows the problem goes away. I have reset Firefox and it didn't stop the problem. It's a recent problem, only affecting Firefox in the immediate past. I have also seen other people complaining about it very recently albeit no solution.
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  2. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    I'm having the same issue over the last 2 weeks, but my issue affects all operations, not just browsers.

    I’m running Windows 10 Home on an SSD, fully updated. Version 1803, build 1734.191 on an Intel 6600K with 8 GB RAM. Windows and all apps on the SSD. Data confined to a standard HDD. A plain vanilla system that rarely uses even 3 GB of RAM.

    Symptom: Slow response to many attempted operations. I can't even scroll a Word file or a web page. I first noticed this issue 2 or 3 weeks ago.

    I notice this regularly throughout the day, perhaps 10 or 15 times, seemingly at random. This PC is often idling and is rarely under a significant load, so I’d guess it occurs many times without being noticed.

    The browser (usually Pale Moon, occasionally Chrome) can be closed or open.

    Task Manager shows that CPU usage by Antimalware Service Executable can stay in the 28 to 32% range for 20 seconds or so, by far the heaviest load on the CPU.

    I assume a scan or indexing of some sort is going on. Disabling real-time protection in Windows Defender seems to help a lot, but real-time protection apparently turns itself back on in a day or two.

    I also use Malwarebytes, but its services don’t seem to ever use more than 1 or 2% of CPU and I’ve never noticed any conflicts between it and Windows Defender.

    Even though 70% of CPU is supposedly still available, the PC is largely unresponsive to any mouse input until and unless the Antimalware Service Executable CPU usage drops back down to its normal range of 0 or 1%.

    I might see this occur when idling with browser closed and nothing but Task Manager and one Word file open.

    Or it can occur when I attempt something specific, such as opening an application or web site.

    For instance: 6 or 8 seconds to open Excel (normal time would be under 2 seconds); 6 or 8 seconds to open CCleaner or Task Manager (normal time would be virtually immediately).

    Googling tells me I’m not alone, but I don’t see a huge avalanche of recent postings about this problem.

    Nor do I see an authoritative solution from trusted sources.

    This is the most annoying issue I’ve had since installing Windows 10.

    Any ideas or suggestions?
    Last edited by ignatzatsonic; 05 Aug 2018 at 00:39.
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  3. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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  4. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    Yeah, I think so.

    Thanks for the links, Dalchina. I took a look at them.

    Most of those complaints are about browsers or opening "updates and security" in Windows Defender.

    My issue isn't limited to those instances. I have Antimalware Service Executable CPU spikes to 28 or 30% regularly, regardless of what I'm doing. I wouldn't care about that CPU load if it didn't also grind my PC to a near halt.

    Look at the Resource Monitor pic below. It seems that Windows Defender likes to scan a file named mpenginedb.db-wal, which is in ProgramData/Microsoft/Windows Defender/scans.

    I have no idea if that's normal or how often it should occur.

    I've got half a mind to exclude that file from Windows Defender scans just to see if anything catches fire.

    It seems I can eliminate this issue by turning off real-time scanning, but you apparently cannot permanently do that. I tried......a day later, it had switched back on.


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  5. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Yes, if you turn off real-time scanning from the GUI, by design it is again magically enabled.

    You have to work harder to do that, or install 3rd party AV.

    Turn On or Off Windows Defender Real-time Protection in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
    Options 6,7

    One of the complaints about Defender in 1803 more widely (can't recall if it's mentioned in those links I quoted) is that of high CPU use when it scans its own folders or files.
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  6. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #6

    Aye aye, Dalchina.

    I ran Brink's "disable" reg file. We shall see if I have recurrences.

    Meanwhile, waiting for Microsoft acknowledgment of the issue or a fix.

    Relying on Malwarebytes real-time for the time being.

    Not sure how Brink's file may affect choices shown to me within Windows Defender, but I'll be looking at that. Wondering about that "cloud" setting. Maybe it is now grayed out.

    I can't live with the repeated stalling and would dump Defender completely if I had to.
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