Best way to speed up PC?

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  1. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #31

    NavyLCDR said:
    Macrium Reflect will not defrag when restoring an image unless you resize the partition during the restore.
    Hi there

    It actually does "Smart copy" which virtually amounts to the same thing.

    However if on an SSD it's a moot point since any data block is accessible at essentially the same time -- no moving parts so no "rotational delay" in accessing different areas of the disk to pick up all the "chains".

    In general though of all the suggestions for speeding up a PC using an SSD is likely to be the cheapest and by far the most effective one in the short term.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 84
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #32

    CountMike said:
    One way to consider it resident is if it autostarts and/or has permanent service running. On Demand is when you have to start it manually and there's no process left running after it's closed.
    I can confirm that MBAM Free v3.5.1 does have a service called Malwarebytes Service that starts up with Windows (although real time protection is turned off.) I changed the startup type of the service to Manual on my system (right after installation) since I only use MBAM for occasional on-demand scans. I wouldn't know about the service causing slow boot times for Windows or of resource hogging while the service is running in the background but here's an interesting comment made by a member of the ghacks.net website on the MBAM 3.5.1 review article below.

    Best way to speed up PC?-malwarebytes-service.jpg

    Best way to speed up PC?-ghacks_net-comment.jpg
    Source:
    A look at Malwarebytes 3.5.1 - gHacks Tech News

    I concur with the commenter that MBAM takes a long time to start when the service has not already started.
    Last edited by PrivacyFreak; 30 Jul 2018 at 17:23.
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  3. Posts : 1,099
    Win 10 pro Upgraded from 8.1
       #33

    PrivacyFreak said:
    I can confirm that MBAM Free v3.5.1 does have a service called Malwarebytes Service that starts up with Windows. I changed the startup type of the service to Manual on my system (right after installation) since I only use MBAM for occasional on-demand scans. I wouldn't know about the service causing slow boot times for Windows or of resource hogging while the service is running in the background but here's an interesting comment made by a member of the ghacks.net website on the MBAM 3.5.1 review article below.

    Best way to speed up PC?-malwarebytes-service.jpg

    Best way to speed up PC?-ghacks_net-comment.jpg
    Source:
    A look at Malwarebytes 3.5.1 - gHacks Tech News

    I concur with the commenter that MBAM takes a long time to start when the service has not already started.
    I run full version of Mbam and Norton and I don't really notice either slowing down my computers my MB are UEFI 2009 ERA and my notebook 2016 ERA, Of course, all are on SSD's for OS and program files I never run a full scan of either unless I screw up and download something I shouldn't have or I see any unusual things happening on my computers.

    The complaint about double checking shut down is not for us advanced users it's for regular users that might be shutting it down by accident or to make them think about what they are doing.
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  4. Posts : 84
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #34

    Steve C said:
    The above relates to my Post 5 where I mentioned Malwarebytes Free was slowing my laptop booting despite being in offline mode. The boot delay is gone now I've uninstalled Malwarebytes.
    You can right-click the MBAM system tray icon and uncheck "Start with Windows" in the context menu.
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  5. Posts : 84
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #35

    Clintlgm said:
    I run full version of Mbam and Norton and I don't really notice either slowing down my computers my MB are UEFI 2009 ERA and my notebook 2016 ERA, Of course, all are on SSD's for OS and program files I never run a full scan of either unless I screw up and download something I shouldn't have or I see any unusual things happening on my computers.

    The complaint about double checking shut down is not for us advanced users it's for regular users that might be shutting it down by accident or to make them think about what they are doing.
    Yes, but the guy has a point in requesting a "Don't ask me again" checkbox since he clearly knows what he's doing.
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  6. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #36

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    It actually does "Smart copy" which virtually amounts to the same thing.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Respectfully, it does not amount to the same thing, virtually or in reality. I used to think the same thing until I was shown that I was mistaken by @Bree:

    Do I need to defrag the hard disk even if I format the hard disk Solved - Windows 10 Forums

    Starting at post #7 and proven by my own testing:
    So here are the results of my testing:

    I made a backup image of a Windows 10 installation that was in a 250GB partition. First when I restored the partition, I shrunk it by 1GB so the restored partition was 249GB is size. This was the result:
    Attachment 195415

    Expanding the partition back to 250GB did not change the fragmentation. Conclusion: the partition was defragged (file by file copy) when it was shrunk and restored.

    Now, here are the results when I restored the partition without resizing it:
    Attachment 195416

    So....the behavior Bree posted is correct. Restoring the partition without resizing is a sector by sector restore, not file by file, and no defragging occurs. So if you want to defrag during your restore, you have to shrink the partition when you restore it - then you can expand the restored partition back to it's original size after the restore is complete.
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  7. Posts : 7,909
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #37

    PrivacyFreak said:
    You can right-click the MBAM system tray icon and uncheck "Start with Windows" in the context menu.
    Malwarebytes wasn't starting with Windows but still slowed the boot time.
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  8. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #38

    (Free)MBAM service is there but it's in manual mode and not started at any time
    Best way to speed up PC?-image.png
    Unless running, even if it stays in taskbar, it consumes very little resources so it's not any threat to performance.
    Best way to speed up PC?-image.png
    It's not particularly heavy on resources even when running scans, pretty well written program, my only annoyance is slow start, even from very fast SSD and whole system.
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  9. Posts : 84
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #39

    CountMike said:
    (Free)MBAM service is there but it's in manual mode and not started at any time
    ..., my only annoyance is slow start, even from very fast SSD and whole system.
    Yes, that was exactly the GHacks.net member's complaint about MBAM Free. For the program to launch quickly, it must be set to start with windows

    Best way to speed up PC?-mbam-start-windows.jpg

    When you do this, the startup type of the Malwarebytes Service is changed from Manual to Automatic (Delayed Start.) This adds up to Windows startup time (service launch and in turn, tray application launch, etc.) So, when you run the MBAM main program, it launches quickly since all necessary components have already been loaded and running. This is acceptable if MBAM real-time protection were turned on but for an on-demand scanner, starting up with windows just to be able to launch the main program quickly is just gimmicky. It's simply better to put up with slow program launch time until Malwarebytes improves startup performance.
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  10. Posts : 84
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #40

    Steve C said:
    Malwarebytes wasn't starting with Windows but still slowed the boot time.
    OK. I'm totally lost on how a program not starting with Windows can still contribute to slow boot time.
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