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  1.    01 Aug 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by torre View Post
    Win 10 or Toshiba in your opinion ?
    IMHO it is with this build of Windows 10. After upgrading to the "final" (release) version, my MSI netbook has the same issue, but the black screen lasts for about 50 seconds (as compared to before, which did not have much of a black screen). On the netbook it is a 32-bit version of Windows 10 Pro.
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  2.    01 Aug 2015 #22
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    I wouldn't worry about it. 1-3 min from shut off to desktop is probably the norm. I do wonder what Win 10 is doing with a 30 sec black screen.
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  3.    01 Aug 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by richardanthony View Post
    I have booted into Safe Mode. Interestingly that did NOT make a difference. The only difference was, the login time was a bit faster (ie the time from entering your password to when the desktop appears). But the black screen before the login page, was still the same (1:20 or so).
    Interesting. I have exactly the same problem, but for me Safe Mode does make a difference -- there is no black screen when I boot into Safe Mode and the total boot time is only about 15 seconds.

    Does anyone know how to trace the boot process in Windows 10? Windows 7 and 8 had xbootmgr, but there doesn't appear to be Windows 10 version. All I've managed to find so far is the boot log which is not very helpful. The only things which are weird about it are that it tries to load certain drivers multiple times and only succeeds the first time. That is:

    BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
    BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys (5 times)

    BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WdFilter.sys
    BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WdFilter.sys (only 1 time)

    The Event Viewer isn't very helpful either (or maybe I don't know exactly how to look).
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  4.    01 Aug 2015 #24
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Instead of restarting... I just opt to shutdown and then hit the power button again
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  5.    01 Aug 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by MortTheBeast View Post
    Instead of restarting... I just opt to shutdown and then hit the power button again
    I still think sometimes it does make a difference. If you have fast-startup enabled, the shutdown is a hybrid of shutdown / hibernation. So I think using the actual shutdown (shutdown -f -s) is a "cleaner" way of doing it.

    You might notice that, if you go to Task Manager, the System Up Time would not be reset when you use fast shutdown.
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  6.    02 Aug 2015 #26
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    for me it's better without fast start time
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  7.    02 Aug 2015 #27
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    I have done several clean re-install of Windows 10 on the same PC.

    Before doing the clean install, I deleted all partitions on the HDD - except for the UEFI partition.

    After that, I installed drivers / programs one by one, restarting twice after each, using a stopwatch for timing. Also, I ensured that the PC is not connected to the Internet, otherwise Windows will automatically download drivers for Graphics, Touchpad etc that are not necessary the most up to date.

    From the time the OEM logo appears till it disappears, it always takes about 10 - 15 seconds.

    The time right after the OEM disappears till the Login screen appears:

    Clean install, without installing any drivers / programs: 20 sec
    Installed several drivers incl Intel Chipset, HD Graphics etc: 20 sec
    Installed Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver: 40 sec.

    Uninstalled the Intel Rapid Storage driver, did a cleanup, but the start up time did not return back to 20 sec.

    At this stage, I resorted to another clean install. This time, decided not to install the Intel RST driver.

    Installed several more drivers: 20 sec

    Installed Adobe Acrobat Reader DC: 40 sec
    Installed avast anti-virus: 40 sec
    Installed several more programs, incl Google Chrome etc: 40 sec

    Installed Comodo Firewall: 1min 10 sec

    Installed MS Office: 1min 10 sec.

    Basing on the above, quite obvious some programs are causing problems.

    FYI, all drivers are downloaded straight from the respective official sites to make sure they are most up to date.
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  8.    02 Aug 2015 #28
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    You could try http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/bb963902 and use autoruns.exe. This will show whats logging on at start up, services, etc.
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  9.    02 Aug 2015 #29
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    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (build 10586)

    When it is showing the black screen, is there any hard drive activity? My antivirus supposedly adapts to my PC as I use it, so after installing it, my computer's boot process was sluggish for a while but eventually it began booting in less than 3 seconds.
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  10.    02 Aug 2015 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slugger View Post
    You could try http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/bb963902 and use autoruns.exe. This will show whats logging on at start up, services, etc.
    In my first post I mentioned that I already used Autoruns, Ccleaner etc... But the thing with Autoruns is, it does not give you the time it took for each process to load.
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