Win 10 64 bit (1703) boot time too long!

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  1.    20 Dec 2017 #1

    Win 10 64 bit (1703) boot time too long!

    I'm wondering why my win 10 PC takes between 3 and 4 minutes to boot.
    The startup in task manager tells me that I have only 4 items enabled (Avast AV, Glasswire, Windows Defender and Classic Start menu), which together use up less than 11 seconds to boot.
    What in the world happens to the other 3 or so minutes that the PC needs to produce a desktop that can actually be used?
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  2. Posts : 22,719
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       20 Dec 2017 #2

    Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:
    1) sfc /scannow
    2) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    3) chkdsk /scan
    When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    4) msconfig (in the pop up system configuration > move the dot from normal startup to selective startup > uncheck load startup items > click service tab > in left lower corner check hide all Microsoft services > in the lower right side click disable all > click apply or ok > do not reboot)

    5) taskmgr (in the pop up task manager > click on the start up tab > click on status so that the column sorts with enable rising to the top > right click on each row with enable and change to disable)
    How to perform a Clean Boot in Windows 10 - TechNet Articles - United States (English) - TechNet Wiki

    6) shutdown /r (you will reboot the computer so that it is in clean boot)

    Evaluate the performance on your computer in clean boot during typical use.
    Are the boots faster or slower?
    Are the shutdowns faster or slower?
    How has the audio and video performance changed? Is it better, worse, or the same?
    Continue using clean boot indefinitely to monitor performance.

    Other options include upgrading from 1703 > 1709.
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  3.    21 Dec 2017 #3

    Thanks for the detailed instructions, please find the scan results below:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.15063](c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.C:\WINDOWS\system32>sfc /scannowBeginning system scan. This process will take some time.Beginning verification phase of system scan.Verification 100% complete.Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.C:\WINDOWS\system32>dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealthDeployment Image Servicing and Management toolVersion: 10.0.15063.0Image Version: 10.0.15063.0[==========================100.0%==========================] The restore operation completed successfully.The operation completed successfully.C:\WINDOWS\system32>chkdsk /scanThe type of the file system is NTFS.Volume label is Windows.Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ... 333056 file records processed. File verification completed. 6973 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed.Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ... 414424 index entries processed. Index verification completed. 0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...Security descriptor verification completed. 40685 data files processed.CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... 38681336 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.No further action is required. 78874620 KB total disk space. 45811360 KB in 127612 files. 107404 KB in 40686 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 559208 KB in use by the system. 65536 KB occupied by the log file. 32396648 KB available on disk. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 19718655 total allocation units on disk. 8099162 allocation units available on disk.C:\WINDOWS\system32>

    I disabled all startup items as per your instructions and the boot time did not decrease, I even had the impression it to be longer than before.
    As to updating to 1709, that does not seem to work. The update history shows two instances when Windows tried to update to 1709 but failed. However, when I click on Look for Updates, Windows tells me that the PC is up-to-date and no updates are available.
    Go figure!
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  4.    21 Dec 2017 #4

    Open an Admin Command Prompt, (click in Search box, type command, right click on Command Prompt in result window, select Run as administrator), at prompt type shutdown /s. Note space in command (it must be there), press Enter.

    You will see a message displayed stating that computer will be shutdown in 1 minute. After computer is shutdown, restart.
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  5. Posts : 22,719
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       21 Dec 2017 #5

    1) find a flash drive that you can format
    2) create a bootable windows 10 iso:
    Download Windows 10
    3) perform an in place upgrade repair:
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Method to repair and upgrade:
    1) Open file file explorer
    2) insert the windows 10 iso into any USB port
    3) identify the drive letter in file explorer
    4) click on the drive and find setup or setup.exe
    5) launch it and follow the text and images in this link:
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Before performing the in place upgrade repair:
    1) disconnect any peripherals from the computer
    use wired mouse and keyboard, and monitor
    disconnect printer, headset, xbox, speakers etc.
    2) keep computer in clean boot
    3) uninstall any AV/firewall software (always on and manual software) so only AV product is windows defender
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  6.    21 Dec 2017 #6

    Railtech, followed your advice, no difference in boot time.
    Zbook, I would download it but, unfortunately, I live in the Texas boondocks with a slow internet. I simply cannot download huge files without them being corrupted halfway through.
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  7. Posts : 22,719
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       21 Dec 2017 #7

    Can you have a friend, relative or local store or travel to a public library to perform the download of the windows 10 iso?
    Alternatively maybe someone could mail to you a 8 GB flash drive with the windows 10 iso?
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  8.    21 Dec 2017 #8

    I'll find a way, thanks.
    Would that repair and upgrade format my HD?
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  9. Posts : 22,719
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       21 Dec 2017 #9

    The in place upgrade repair should save your files and applications.
    It is always best to make a backup so that you are prepared for the unexpected.
    This can be done by backing up user folders and or making a backup image:
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free
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  10.    21 Dec 2017 #10

    OK, thanks again for all your advice and input.
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