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       #821

    Here is an odd thing I found any ideas:

    My Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition pumps motor speed is suppose to be 3600 rpm, but no matter if I use the AIO header, or CPU fan header, when I set it to max speed, it says only 1800 rpm(the half).
    The rated 3600 speed is both at the site, and on the carton it came in

    Temps stay down though, so that's not the problem, it's just I'm curious about the difference.
    Water Block:
    Material: Copper
    Pump:
    Rated Voltage: 12 V/ 5V
    Rated Current: 0.325 A / 0.4A
    Motor Speed: 3600 R.P.M
    Thermaltake - Global - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition - CL-W158-PL12SW-A


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       #822

    Is there a difference between motor speed & pump speed?
    The review at Tweak Town said their pump speed was also 1800 rpm(as shown in Aida64).
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       #823

    I found the answer in Thermaltake forums:

    The pump is dual pulse, and the motherboard can only read single pulse.
    Double the RPM reading to get the actual pump RPM.

    Best Regards,
    Thermaltake customer service
    So I guess it's kind of like with RAM:)
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       #824

    Cliff S said:
    Is there a difference between motor speed & pump speed?
    The review at Tweak Town said their pump speed was also 1800 rpm(as shown in Aida64).
    Not on AiOs, pump runs of a motor, same as in in fans but thru magnetic coupling. With such a coupling that deosn't have a motor shaft going into part with liquid, there is some latency in time motor speeds up and when pump turns at (almost) same RPM and it's one of the reasons it's better to run it at full or near full speed. A CPU can heat up faster than time a pump can speed up and take higher heat away to radiator to be dissipated.
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       #825

    Cliff S said:
    I found the answer in Thermaltake forums:


    I was just gonna propose something similar to that. Sounded to me like a sensor incompatibility problem not a pump problem. Great you found the answer. :)
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       #826

    CountMike said:
    Not on AiOs, pump runs of a motor, same as in in fans but thru magnetic coupling. With such a coupling that deosn't have a motor shaft going into part with liquid, there is some latency in time motor speeds up and when pump turns at (almost) same RPM and it's one of the reasons it's better to run it at full or near full speed. A CPU can heat up faster than time a pump can speed up and take higher heat away to radiator to be dissipated.
    Yes, there is a reason why those water chilled systems have a lot of liquid. It is to spread out the heat and mix hot fluid with cold fluid. If the "water" stays too long in one place it will heat up too much and thus provide worse cooling for the critical part. The fluid at the critical components have to get exchanged as fast as possible with cooled liquid.
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       #827

    I've updated a couple of my Aida64 Sensor Panel's to my new system.
    I had to add two more cores, and was able to add the PCH(chipset) which my MSI Z170 board did not have.
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       #828

    Cliff S said:
    I've updated a couple of my Aida64 Sensor Panel's to my new system.
    I had to add two more cores, and was able to add the PCH(chipset) which my MSI Z170 board did not have.
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    Looks Nice Cliff, like it. :)
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       #829

    OldMike65 said:
    Looks Nice Cliff, like it. :)
    Thanks Mike
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       #830

    Cliff S said:
    I found the answer in Thermaltake forums:



    So I guess it's kind of like with RAM:)
    Hi,
    Yeah I was seeing a chassis fan 4 there is only 2 that I know of besides the cpu optional fan which doesn't go this high
    So I assumed it was the pump which I am connected to the boards water pump port.
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