Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread [2]

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  1.    28 Nov 2017 #621

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    I'm not sure any Intel CPU's come with a stock coolers anymore. I know the last wo processors I bought - i7-6700K, an i7-7700K didn't come with one, and I'm somewhat sure my i7-4790K didn't come with one. All these were boxed retail.

    That said, I pose the question? Anyone get a new CPU that actually came with a stock cooler? Perhaps AMD?
    Have not seen one from Intel in years now. Just as well. Even when they did come with chip I never ever used one.
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       28 Nov 2017 #622

    So warranty is the main difference with the OEM branding that was asked about?

    I have not had a cooler included since IVY Bridge 3570K purchase myself.

    Edit: I have never bought AMD, but I do remember certain Ryzen purchases came with a new cooler AMD made
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  3.    28 Nov 2017 #623

    doorules said: View Post
    Have not seen one from Intel in years now. Just as well. Even when they did come with chip I never ever used one.
    Yeah I think the last time I tried a stock cooler was with the Intel Q6600 back in 07. Eventually replaced it with a Zalman CNPS9500 AT cooler. BTW I gave that system to my uncle a few years back and it's still running today. Even has Windows 10 on it
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  4.    28 Nov 2017 #624

    essenbe said: View Post
    That's traditionally been the difference in Retail and OEM. I just didn't think they were still selling them with coolers. But, what do I know.

    The warranties should be longer than that I would think. Is it the OC UK warranty or the Intel Warranty?
    "Warranty Eligibility of Intel® Processors

    How do I determine my Intel Processor is covered under warranty?

    If you have an OEM processor, Intel doesn't provide direct warranty support. Contact your OEM or reseller for warranty support. See Intel Warranty Guide for Processors for more information.

    If you aren't sure you have an OEM processor, find the fan heatsink and processor markings then contact us.

    If your system is newer than three years, see Intel® Boxed Processor Verification. Determine if you have a boxed or OEM processor.

    Note:
    Have the fan and processor markings when you contact Intel Customer Support. Specific fan heatsinks ship with most processors. Mobile and some enthusiast SKUs do not ship with a fan heatsink or thermal solution."

    https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/...rocessors.html
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       29 Nov 2017 #625

    @bordi, you may correct me if I am wrong. But, as I understand it, in the UK there are mandatory retail store (OC UK) warranties. Then there are the manufacturer's (Intel) warranty. What you are reading may be the limitations Overclockers UK are putting on their warranty, not on Intel's warranty, which is 3 years. As I understand it, if it is a boxed processor, you have an Intel 3 year warranty. The exceptions to that are if it came as part of an OEM computer (Dell, HP or one of them), if it is an Engineering sample or if it is part of a tray lot. If you are concerned, I would call and ask them.
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  6.    29 Nov 2017 #626

    essenbe said: View Post
    @bordi, you may correct me if I am wrong. But, as I understand it, in the UK there are mandatory retail store (OC UK) warranties. Then there are the manufacturer's (Intel) warranty. What you are reading may be the limitations Overclockers UK are putting on their warranty, not on Intel's warranty, which is 3 years. As I understand it, if it is a boxed processor, you have an Intel 3 year warranty. The exceptions to that are if it came as part of an OEM computer (Dell, HP or one of them), if it is an Engineering sample or if it is part of a tray lot. If you are concerned, I would call and ask them.
    Yes mate you are absolutely correct, I’m just being a little pedantic because I wasn’t quite ready to upgrade my system yet.

    The only reason I’m considering it now is because the latest release of Windows RS-4s will not install on this machine.

    And the other reason is because initially I was going for the I7-7740x series OEM at £188.99 from OC UK

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel...cp-63e-in.html

    Until the man in the computer fair told me:

    “They are used or pulled CPUs without boxes; you will be wasting your money if you buy this one”.
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       29 Nov 2017 #627

    I believe we have already established the man at the computer fair is way less than trustworthy. Forget anything he said. My only advice, and what I would do, is if you have any concerns, call OC UK and ask them to explain it to you.
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       29 Nov 2017 #628

    bordi said: View Post
    Thanks mate; they’re selling the retail version of i7-8700K 3.7GHz at £428.99

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i7-8700k-3.7ghz-coffee-lake-socket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-63r-in.html

    And the OEM version which I assume didn’t meet their overclocking expectations at £368.99

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i7-8700k-3.7ghz-coffee-lake-socket-lga1151-processor-oem-cp-64c-in.html

    Do you recommend buying an OEM version?

    Or I should say is it advisable to buy an OEM?
    Difference between OEM and Retail CPUs? - CPUs - Toms Hardware

    In a nutshell - -

    There is no difference. At least physically with the CPU.

    OEM processors, as you would buy them, are the gray market processors that Intel referred to when they announced they were 'leveling the pricing for OEMs and the channel'. Here is how it works.

    OEMs place an order and get volume discounting, sometimes significant depending on the amount of the order and the negotiating skills of the buyers. Often times the larger the order the better the discount, thus they will significantly over order what they need. They hold the inventory for sometime, then sell the excess back into the channel at pricing lower than what Intel (or AMD) would sell into the channel.

    As such, you get 'cheaper' CPU's, the OEMs sell the excess for slightly over the volume discount so they get a profit, and the channel players sell them to you for a small mark up. Everyone makes money except the manufactures who 'lose' revenue due to processors they sold at lower prices.

    Retail CPUs are sold direct through the distributor to the channel or retailer/e-tailer. They are boxed, branded and, tada come with their own HSF.

    Another difference, and one to pay attention to, is the warranty. Since Intel or AMD transfers ownership to the OEM, the OEM assumes warranty responsibility, thus when they shove them off to the gray market, they typically only offer up 30 day warrantee's. Intel or AMD are not responsible for the warrantee on an OEM processor as those were itended to be into finished boxes which are themselves unit/warranteed by the OEM. (At least that was the way the warranty was described to me, I could be wrong).

    Jack

    Awesome description. I learned something today :wink:

    I would've just said, "OEM has no box, heat sink, fan, or warranty," but I like your reply much better
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       29 Nov 2017 #629

    Hi,
    oem sounds like a perfect product for a delid
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  •    29 Nov 2017 #630

    Opinions guys on a Dell - 27" LED QHD GSync Monitor I'm thinking of getting, price is 399.00 Cheap price for a GSync monitor.
    It is a TN display thou.
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27...373&ksdevice=c
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