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  1.    4 Weeks Ago #21
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 879
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    Guess its what makes him happy. Lots of people go 16GB ram, but they may only need 8GB. However, they type 100% of the time on the keyboard. So, skimping there might be short sighted. Many enthusiasts base everything on benchmarks and raw performance. I cannot tell you how many fabulous PCs i have seen people build with absolutely terrible monitors. But i say, you look at the monitor 100% of the time, you should spend money on a good experience there. But others would argue the newest, fastest SSD is far more important than the monitor.

    I just hope that the money spent on this keyboard and mouse is because that is what he wants, versus just a cheap version of what he thinks he wants. A better cheapo keyboard can far and away exceed a crappy built mechanical keyboard.
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  2.    4 Weeks Ago #22
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 505
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
    OP will spend $846 on his build per PCPartPicker.

    If he absolutely cannot spend more than that and additionally cannot thereafter toss maybe $10 or $20 a month into a pot for later upgrades, then I could see why he would stay with that $846 build---he'd be expecting to live with that mouse/KB/headphones indefinitely--because he can't afford another dime.

    On the other hand---if he CAN toss $10 or $20 a month into a pot for later upgrades, I'd say he might be better off going ultra cheap on the mouse/KB/headphones now and instead spend that money on more CPU/GPU/SSD.

    Then, 6 months or a year from now, upgrade the mouse/KB/headphones if desired with that newly saved money.

    It's just makes more sense and is much easier to upgrade peripherals 6 months later than it is to upgrade major internal components like CPU/drives/GPU that soon.

    But maybe the OP refuses to spend a single dollar more over the next 5 years barring major failures. We don't know. Maybe he has a weakness for flashing lights.

    And, he could decide after 6 months with the cheaper stuff, that he can live with the cheaper stuff much more easily than he thought.
    I like the way you think.....very logical and sound advice.
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  3.    4 Weeks Ago #23
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Posts : 169
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    A better cheapo keyboard can far and away exceed a crappy built mechanical keyboard.
    Heck yeah---el cheapo Microsoft for under $15 has lasted me over 6 years of constant pounding.

    I was seduced by a fancy dan mechanical with cherry switches blah blah blah for $100 about 3 years ago. Controller failed in 3 weeks. I was so frustrated I just threw it in the garbage rather than attempt a refund/replacement/dealing with customer service.

    Back to the Microsoft. No clickety click, no bragging, but no frustration.
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  4.    4 Weeks Ago #24

    Everybody knows that 'gaming' labeled items are automatically x10 better and will make you x10 cooler.
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  5.    4 Weeks Ago #25
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    USA
    Posts : 1,424
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    I think we're overly focusing on the keyboard and mouse where the basics will do just fine. Next.
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  6.    4 Weeks Ago #26
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    England
    Posts : 13,677
    Windows 10 Professional x64

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartEyeball View Post
    Everybody knows that 'gaming' labeled items are automatically x10 better and will make you x10 cooler.
    ... I use a gaming mouse all the time (for gaming and I find the adjustable DPI very handy in Adobe CS6)
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  7.    4 Weeks Ago #27
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 879
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
    Heck yeah---el cheapo Microsoft for under $15 has lasted me over 6 years of constant pounding.

    I was seduced by a fancy dan mechanical with cherry switches blah blah blah for $100 about 3 years ago. Controller failed in 3 weeks. I was so frustrated I just threw it in the garbage rather than attempt a refund/replacement/dealing with customer service.

    Back to the Microsoft. No clickety click, no bragging, but no frustration.
    I have been using a microsoft trackball explorer for nearly 15 years. I have 4 of them, keep them at work, etc

    I love the feedback though on mechanical keyboard. I don't need the clickey noise, but i prefer the tactile feedback.
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  8.    4 Weeks Ago #28

    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
    I was seduced by a fancy dan mechanical with cherry switches blah blah blah for $100 about 3 years ago. Controller failed in 3 weeks. I was so frustrated I just threw it in the garbage rather than attempt a refund/replacement/dealing with customer service.

    Back to the Microsoft. No clickety click, no bragging, but no frustration.
    Problem there was the Fancy Dan model. My Topre, Filco and Duckys are still clicking me just fine

    Can't say the same for all my 'gaming mice' however. Still going to buy them though. Too useful and who cares if they break.

    As to the OP, let the kid buy what he wants. Apart from the 1050ti, his system is solid enough.
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  9.    3 Weeks Ago #29
    Join Date : Sep 2017
    Posts : 48
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    1. Build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeDa...7/saved/BZGccf
      1. Build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeDa...7/saved/XBdXHx
      2. Build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeDa...7/saved/CGGccf
      3. Build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeDa...7/saved/DCMccf

    OK. Here are my 4 builds i have been working on. They are all right around my budget, $800-$900. I'm new to this pc building business, so I dont know which one I will get the most bang for my buck. Keep in my also, I am only 15, have no steady income, and have to pay $100 more than half of $800 to $900. So i want the best performance to price ration. Yes, I understand that there is no SSD, and that will be a upgrade for the future. And another thing, I want whatever build I go with to be very future proof, i.e. being able to play newer games in 2 years at reasonable FPS. Oh, I forgot to mention that this build is mainly for gaming. The main games I will be playing are PUBG, CSGO, L4D2, TF2, and Battlefront. So, to reiterate, I want to get the best bang for buck build optimized for gaming, that is future proof, and is affordable. Thanks in advance.
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  10.    3 Weeks Ago #30
    Join Date : Sep 2017
    Posts : 48
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
    OP will spend $846 on his build per PCPartPicker.

    If he absolutely cannot spend more than that and additionally cannot thereafter toss maybe $10 or $20 a month into a pot for later upgrades, then I could see why he would stay with that $846 build---he'd be expecting to live with that mouse/KB/headphones indefinitely--because he can't afford another dime.

    On the other hand---if he CAN toss $10 or $20 a month into a pot for later upgrades, I'd say he might be better off going ultra cheap on the mouse/KB/headphones now and instead spend that money on more CPU/GPU/SSD.

    Then, 6 months or a year from now, upgrade the mouse/KB/headphones if desired with that newly saved money.

    It's just makes more sense and is much easier to upgrade peripherals 6 months later than it is to upgrade major internal components like CPU/drives/GPU that soon.

    But maybe the OP refuses to spend a single dollar more over the next 5 years barring major failures. We don't know. Maybe he has a weakness for flashing lights.

    And, he could decide after 6 months with the cheaper stuff, that he can live with the cheaper stuff much more easily than he thought.
    honestly that is true. but id rather just get what i want now and then upgrade a year or so in the future.
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