2017 Hardware Thread


  1. Posts : 12,801
    Windows 11 Pro
       #3261

    Cliff, the OC3D guy, Tom Logan, was in communication with der8auer about the issue because he could not reproduce it. They both said the same thing. Only under a certain set of circumstances which nobody, other than LN2 overclockers, would do could reproduce the issue.
    You have to turn off the motherboard setting which allows the CPU to communicate with the VRM

    You have to change the setting of how much voltage could go to the VRM from 100% to 140%

    You have to turn off all the thermal throttling and overvoltage protections in BIOS. Which no sane person would ever do.

    Even with all of that, it could only be reproduced in 1 test of prime95. To create the problem he described, you have to send 450-500 Watts through the VRM which it was never designed to handle.

    All over the internet everyone is overclocking that CPU to 4.5-4.6 on 1.25V or less. This is a screenshot of the video he did to show his CPU throttling. Please explain to me why anyone who would like his CPU to last more than 6 months would run 1.7+V through a CPU for a 4.6 overclock?

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    The problem would not exist under any normal circumstances. His video about it made the Manufacturers have to say they are doing something about it. It would only happen for extreme LN2 overclockers who are used to dealing with those type of problems because of what they do. And they don't care if they fry the CPU or motherboard, they come with a stack of both.
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  2. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #3262

    Hahhah, that is some insane voltages for that tiny VRM. No wonder it is overheating when all protections are taken offline.
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  3. Posts : 12,801
    Windows 11 Pro
       #3263

    slicendice said:
    Hahhah, that is some insane voltages for that tiny VRM. No wonder it is overheating when all protections are taken offline.
    I'm wondering about those numbers. What PSU was he running for curiosity, or are all those voltages wrong. If you look at the Current I/O, it shows a high of 139.5A. About the biggest commercial PSU would be a 1600 Watt PSU. They only have 130 Amps on the +12V rail. That would mean he is pulling something like 1600+ Watts through the board or that software is reading everything wrong. That would blow all the breakers in my house.
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  4. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #3264

    essenbe said:
    I'm wondering about those numbers. What PSU was he running for curiosity, or are all those voltages wrong. If you look at the Current I/O, it shows a high of 139.5A. About the biggest commercial PSU would be a 1600 Watt PSU. They only have 130 Amps on the +12V rail. That would mean he is pulling something like 1600+ Watts through the board or that software is reading everything wrong. That would blow all the breakers in my house.
    I am not sure what he's using, but you can connect multiple PSUs in parallel for insane currents. I've heard there even exists some kits for this but I have never personally seen one yet (haven't been looking).

    Yeah, running multiple PSUs under same fuse would blow it easily. Need to make sure each PSU runs under different fuse and no devices like vacuum cleaner or industrial microwaves are connected to same outlets. :)
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  5. Posts : 27,180
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #3265

    The new and improved RTSS & Afterburner.
    Select
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    Ok you EVGA Precision XOC fans, can your software do this?
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  6. Posts : 27,180
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #3266

    You can also select the font you wish to have
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  7. Posts : 27,180
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #3267

    Enabling Shared Memory in Aida64, and turning on the dll in Afterburner, lets you get even more information, lot's more if you want it:
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    You now have a choice of these plug ins:
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  8. Posts : 3,453
       #3268

    Cliff S said:
    Just do a clean install of 10 and use the retail key for 7, not sure about a system builders on though, might want to ask @Superfly.
    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Retail key for win-10 = that will never happen
    System Builder is OEM thus EULA dictates only licenced to 1 PC... If it was used before then the Activation Wiz is the way to transfer to new HW, otherwise using it on Win 10 of the same edition should be OK.
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  9. Posts : 7,724
    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #3269

    Superfly said:
    System Builder is OEM thus EULA dictates only licenced to 1 PC... If it was used before then the Activation Wiz is the way to transfer to new HW, otherwise using it on Win 10 of the same edition should be OK.
    Hi,
    My existing win-7 is not a oem/ system builder it is a full retail
    I transferred my existing ssd with it on it and it reactivated smooth as silk :)
    No way I'd "upgrade" it to 10.
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  10. Posts : 12,801
    Windows 11 Pro
       #3270




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