2017 Hardware Thread


  1. copiertech25
    Posts : 507
    Windows 11 Pro/ POP_OS 22.04 LTS
       New #2741

    Cliff S said:

    Excitement over new hardware is natural:)
    The nice part with new stuff, is now finding your highest "usable for benchmarking" overclock, and your most stabile(system and the overclock itself)overclock for daily use.
    Have fun finding your limits
    That's one reason I went with an AIO liquid cooler. So I can push its limits. My issue right now is trying to figure out the fan control in bios this system was getting toasty. I still need to add two more exhaust fans as well.
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  3. CountMike
    Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       New #2742

    copiertech25 said:
    That's one reason I went with an AIO liquid cooler. So I can push its limits. My issue right now is trying to figure out the fan control in bios this system was getting toasty. I still need to add two more exhaust fans as well.
    There should be fan control in BIOS. I always set fans at full speed while testing and OCing so heat doesn't interfere with it. What do you have pump connected to and is there any control over its rpms ? With water cooling, good ventilation thru the case is necessary, specially over VRM and chipset. Rad fans don't move as much air as proper case fans do because they are made for higher static pressure, not high flow.
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  4. copiertech25
    Posts : 507
    Windows 11 Pro/ POP_OS 22.04 LTS
       New #2743

    CountMike said:
    There should be fan control in BIOS. I always set fans at full speed while testing and OCing so heat doesn't interfere with it. What do you have pump connected to and is there any control over its rpms ? With water cooling, good ventilation thru the case is necessary, specially over VRM and chipset. Rad fans don't move as much air as proper case fans do because they are made for higher static pressure, not high flow.
    I have the pump plugged into the CPU fan. I have control over the RPMs for it. I have two front case fans and am going to put in two top case exhaust fans.
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  6. CountMike
    Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       New #2744

    copiertech25 said:
    I have the pump plugged into the CPU fan. I have control over the RPMs for it. I have two front case fans and am going to put in two top case exhaust fans.
    No, don't with that cooler, connect pump somewhere with constant, full power. Isn't there and AiO_pump or W_pump header on that MB ? Radiator fans you can control according to CPU temperature only if/they is/are connected to CPU_fan connector(s). If not, connect pump to a case fan header or even directly to PSU.
    On most MBs, AiO_pump header has no control at all. W_pump does because it's meant for custom loops with much stronger pumps.
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  7. sygnus21
    Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       New #2745

    As CountMike says, make sure you connect the pump to a full powered header or else you risk damaging the pump.
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  8. copiertech25
    Posts : 507
    Windows 11 Pro/ POP_OS 22.04 LTS
       New #2746

    CountMike said:
    No, don't with that cooler, connect pump somewhere with constant, full power. Isn't there and AiO_pump or W_pump header on that MB ? Radiator fans you can control according to CPU temperature only if/they is/are connected to CPU_fan connector(s). If not, connect pump to a case fan header or even directly to PSU.
    On most MBs, AiO_pump header has no control at all. W_pump does because it's meant for custom loops with much stronger pumps.
    Thanks guys! This is my first AIO. It does have a w/ pump header but it's at the bottom of the mainboard and the cable is too short. I'll plug it into a fan header.
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  9. copiertech25
    Posts : 507
    Windows 11 Pro/ POP_OS 22.04 LTS
       New #2747

    Alright I take it back. Got it shutdown and the cable just reached the Pump header. Thanks guys!
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  10. specialkone
    Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       New #2748

    Dude said:
    No,
    .. try nudging your vcore either up or down just a bit. Its the way it reads timings so it needs tweaking sometimes
    So I tried bumping vcore up and down a bit. Time Spy validated only 1 out of 3 but that's my normal "random success". Firestrike failed both times with the time measurement data not available message.

    I played with MSI AB settings - nope. Disabled RTSS by deselecting options in AB - nope. I set everything back to where I had it, including auto on vcore in my "unvalidated bios"and my usual AB RTSS settings. Made one new change and look:

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    Ran each benchmark twice and all four were valid results. What did I do, you ask? Turned OFF Windows 10 game mode.
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  12. Dude
    Posts : 16,643
    Windows 11 Pro X64
       New #2749

    not sure whats going on

    What settings are you using in AB for Voltage, core, and Memory?
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  13. specialkone
    Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       New #2750

    Dude said:
    not sure whats going on

    What settings are you using in AB for Voltage, core, and Memory?
    I'm not complicating anything bringing an overclock into the mix as I was getting the 3D Mark time measurement error whether I overclock or not. So I tested with vcore adjustments only. Tested with Rivatuner closed only. None of that worked. Turned off Windows 10 game mode and four successes in a row. In AB, voltage, core and memory are at stock of course for stock runs.

    2017 Hardware Thread-msi.png

    Not sure what's going on either. Will do more testing when the validated Asus bios arrives, if ever.
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