2017 Hardware Thread

6 more days!

8 a.m. PDT, Aug. 21, 2017
Intel will unveil the 8^th Generation Intel® Core™ processor family

Eight Reasons to Tune In

1. Don’t be caught in the dark. Learn how the 8th Gen Intel Core processor family will offer blazing fast performance.
2. Hear directly from Gregory Bryant, senior vice president of the Client Computing Group at Intel, and others about the details on the latest processor family and what it can help you do.
3. Discover how immersive experiences will bring you from spectator to participant with 8^th Gen Intel Core processor capabilities.
4. Don’t just take our word for it. See the power of 8^th Gen Intel Core technology come to life in the hands of a VR creator and imaging technologist.
5. Get a sneak peek at some of the amazing system designs based on 8^th Gen Intel Core processors.
6. Start planning for what new 8^th Gen Intel Core processor-based device to purchase in the holiday season and even before.
7. Don’t worry, you won’t miss the solar eclipse. Tune in before it descends upon Oregon and the West Coast and then makes its way across the U.S.
8. See how the 8^th Gen Intel Core processor is designed for today and what comes next.

Watch the Live Stream: Tune in live on Intel’s Facebook page or the Intel newsroom

Cliff S said:

6 more days!

8 a.m. PDT, Aug. 21, 2017
Intel will unveil the 8^th Generation Intel® Core™ processor family

Eight Reasons to Tune In

1. Don’t be caught in the dark. Learn how the 8th Gen Intel Core processor family will offer blazing fast performance.
2. Hear directly from Gregory Bryant, senior vice president of the Client Computing Group at Intel, and others about the details on the latest processor family and what it can help you do.
3. Discover how immersive experiences will bring you from spectator to participant with 8^th Gen Intel Core processor capabilities.
4. Don’t just take our word for it. See the power of 8^th Gen Intel Core technology come to life in the hands of a VR creator and imaging technologist.
5. Get a sneak peek at some of the amazing system designs based on 8^th Gen Intel Core processors.
6. Start planning for what new 8^th Gen Intel Core processor-based device to purchase in the holiday season and even before.
7. Don’t worry, you won’t miss the solar eclipse. Tune in before it descends upon Oregon and the West Coast and then makes its way across the U.S.
8. See how the 8^th Gen Intel Core processor is designed for today and what comes next.

Watch the Live Stream: Tune in live on Intel’s Facebook page or the Intel newsroom

And watch for everybody saying "Only 10% performance increase" !

Intel releases information about their 10nm+ Ice lake series of CPUs | CPU Mainboard | OC3D News

Intel's 9th Generation of CPUs will be using the company's new Ice Lake CPU architecture, which is expected to offer some IPC improvements compared to Intel's current-generation offerings and use Intel's new 10nm+ manufacturing process. At this time the release of Ice Lake is not expected until at least the second half of 2018, though at this time we cannot be certain.

When Intel officially announced their 10nm manufacturing technology, they stating that they will be able to pack 2x as many transistors than other competing "10nm" manufacturing nodes.

This will be Intel's third Generation FinFET manufacturing node and it will be a true 10nm design, effectively calling TSMC's upcoming 10nm process a "fake 10nm". This is because the industry does not use a standardised unit of measurement for defining the "size" of a manufacturing node.


These days, most fabs use the ??nm term for marketing, rather than a physical measurement or characteristic of characteristic of their processing node, this has lead to a situation where TSMC is now calling an enhanced version of their 16nm FinFET node 12nm, despite the fact that the size of the node has remained unchanged.
Intel right now is the only major Fab that properly scales their node naming schemes with their process node sizes, giving them what could be defined as the "best" processing technology in terms of transistors per unit area.

I'll pass if it requires a new motherboard.

CountMike said:

And watch for everybody saying "Only 10% performance increase" !

You know, everyone has complained about 'Only' a 10% increase for a long time. A 10% increase in speed/performance is not such a small thing. Do the math. That's not directed at you Mike, just the comments that have been made by reviewers for several years.

sygnus21 said:

I'll pass if it requires a new motherboard.

I'm just really interested on what new features and peripheral support(16K?) it'll have, specially the security ones.

essenbe said:

You know, everyone has complained about 'Only' a 10% increase for a long time. A 10% increase in speed/performance is not such a small thing. Do the math. That's not directed at you Mike, just the comments that have been made by reviewers for several years.

Yes, that's what I was saying, 10% by 10% and in no time it's double performance within 3 generations (if my math is correct).

Cliff S said:

I'm just really interested on what new features and peripheral support(16K?) it'll have, specially the security ones.

Haswell, Sky Lake, Kaby, this, X9, all released in a short amount of time, each requiring a new motherboard. I'm sticking with my Kaby until I actually need the newer tech.

I'll let you boys have at it, while I drool over the numbers, but I'm done for the next two years. Only thing on my next to get now is the new AMD Vega GPU, and that won't be coming till around Christmas. Outside of that, done. That's me.

CountMike said:

Yes, that's what I was saying, 10% by 10% and in no time it's double performance within 3 generations (if my math is correct).

No your math is not correct. If the performance increase is 10% for each generation, then if first generation is 1(100%) then the n:th generation should be 2 (200%).

From this we get the formula:

1*(1.1^n) = 2

Which gives us how many generations we need to add.

Solving the formula gives us 7.27. This means that the 9th gen or adding 8 generations will have more than doubled the performance from 1:st gen. :)

Update: I attached an XML file for you to study.
Performance Increase.xlsx