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  1.    21 Apr 2017 #971
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    Well, I haven't decided. The step up program is for the reference editions only. I don't like them.
    My bad, I thought it was for all cards
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  2.    21 Apr 2017 #972
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    @Dude, it is all cards eligible for the step up program, but you can only step up to the Reference edition of the new cards.
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  3.    21 Apr 2017 #973
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    What pparks says is true, and I don't have to always have the top card. But, when I pay the money and pre order one of the top cards right now and before it is delivered they announce the next generation of cards to come out in a couple of months, that's a little much for me. I knew all along they would come out with a better card sooner or later, but for that kind of money, I expected to be close to the top for 4 or 5 months, at least. It's beginning to look like it may be 6 weeks.
    I do understand this sentiment and I know you are saying 6 weeks to make a point. Let's see how long it actually will be before Volta is in customers' hands. How quickly Nvidia moves on that may depend on how well Vega performs.

    With Nvidia top end GPU's you are in one of two purchase cycles. You either go with the initial product launch and pay a premium for that assuming their is no current competition, or you wait for the TI cycle where the price/performance ratio is much better, not only on the TI but on the original launch version (ie 1080) as well. So the current TI buyers are closer to the next generation indeed, but remember there will be another price premium when Volta comes out. Original 1080 buyers are close to the TI release and TI release buyers are close to the next generation release.

    Personally, in general I like the TI release cycle better. I didn't follow it with the 1080 purchase and have zero regrets. I'm a gamer and was so tired of 2GB Kepler cards with fewer games supporting SLI. And for a change I didn't want to go with my usual previous generation purchase which would have been Maxwell.

    My biggest concern is Nvidia coming out with new gaming graphic features which showcase their latest GPU and that I might like but not be able to run. Heck, my "top tier at the time" 1080 can't run HFTS shadows in WD2 without dropping to FPS in the 30's. Must be a feature designed for 1080 TI's. .

    Bottom line, I think anyone going for a 1080-1080TI now is in a great price/performance cycle. I kept asking who is waiting for Vega/ Volta release. Thought it would be only we 1080 owners. More than surprised Dude is waiting with that lazy 1070 he has but hats off to him.
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  4.    21 Apr 2017 #974
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    I do understand this sentiment and I know you are saying 6 weeks to make a point. Let's see how long it actually will be before Volta is in customers' hands. How quickly Nvidia moves on that may depend on how well Vega performs.

    With Nvidia top end GPU's you are in one of two purchase cycles. You either go with the initial product launch and pay a premium for that assuming their is no current competition, or you wait for the TI cycle where the price/performance ratio is much better, not only on the TI but on the original launch version (ie 1080) as well. So the current TI buyers are closer to the next generation indeed, but remember there will be another price premium when Volta comes out. Original 1080 buyers are close to the TI release and TI release buyers are close to the next generation release.

    Personally, in general I like the TI release cycle better. I didn't follow it with the 1080 purchase and have zero regrets. I'm a gamer and was so tired of 2GB Kepler cards with fewer games supporting SLI. And for a change I didn't want to go with my usual previous generation purchase which would have been Maxwell.

    My biggest concern is Nvidia coming out with new gaming graphic features which showcase their latest GPU and that I might like but not be able to run. Heck, my "top tier at the time" 1080 can't run HFTS shadows in WD2 without dropping to FPS in the 30's. Must be a feature designed for 1080 TI's. .

    Bottom line, I think anyone going for a 1080-1080TI now is in a great price/performance cycle. I kept asking who is waiting for Vega/ Volta release. Thought it would be only we 1080 owners. More than surprised Dude is waiting with that lazy 1070 he has but hats off to him.
    When I (if) receive my 1080Ti, that will be me back to upgrading my GPU every 2 years or so. I have never ever upgraded this quick before (1070 to 1080Ti)
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  5.    21 Apr 2017 #975
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    I do understand this sentiment and I know you are saying 6 weeks to make a point. Let's see how long it actually will be before Volta is in customers' hands. How quickly Nvidia moves on that may depend on how well Vega performs.

    With Nvidia top end GPU's you are in one of two purchase cycles. You either go with the initial product launch and pay a premium for that assuming their is no current competition, or you wait for the TI cycle where the price/performance ratio is much better, not only on the TI but on the original launch version (ie 1080) as well. So the current TI buyers are closer to the next generation indeed, but remember there will be another price premium when Volta comes out. Original 1080 buyers are close to the TI release and TI release buyers are close to the next generation release.

    Personally, in general I like the TI release cycle better. I didn't follow it with the 1080 purchase and have zero regrets. I'm a gamer and was so tired of 2GB Kepler cards with fewer games supporting SLI. And for a change I didn't want to go with my usual previous generation purchase which would have been Maxwell.

    My biggest concern is Nvidia coming out with new gaming graphic features which showcase their latest GPU and that I might like but not be able to run. Heck, my "top tier at the time" 1080 can't run HFTS shadows in WD2 without dropping to FPS in the 30's. Must be a feature designed for 1080 TI's. .

    Bottom line, I think anyone going for a 1080-1080TI now is in a great price/performance cycle. I kept asking who is waiting for Vega/ Volta release. Thought it would be only we 1080 owners. More than surprised Dude is waiting with that lazy 1070 he has but hats off to him.
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  6.    21 Apr 2017 #976
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    Quote Originally Posted by worf105 View Post
    When I (if) receive my 1080Ti, that will be me back to upgrading my GPU every 2 years or so. I have never ever upgraded this quick before (1070 to 1080Ti)
    It's a great purchase/ upgrade worf.
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  7.    21 Apr 2017 #977
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    On Zotacs site chatting with "Jon" asking when I should expect some stock in the UK. He's need time to check my issue or concren lol. Don't think I will hear from Jon again. Worth a shot

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    So have just emailed Kevin
    Doug your 1070 not lazy, It paces its self
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  8.    21 Apr 2017 #978
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Well I'm sad for you too. You can be sad for me later on. I'm hoping to wait for Volta TI. By then, Nvidia will have "helped" with so many new games that my current 1080 P ultra settings with a 120HZ monitor will likely run those new games at 50 FPS.
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  9.    21 Apr 2017 #979
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    It's a great purchase/ upgrade worf.
    Thanks specialkone
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  10.    21 Apr 2017 #980
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    The TI's are huge. This is the Gigabyte Aorus, look at the size.

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