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  1.    06 Apr 2017 #781
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    So far it seems the demand has been pretty good. most places can't keep the AIB versions of the TI in stock for longer than 10 minutes. At least none of the online stores I've seen anyway.
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  2.    06 Apr 2017 #782
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    I'm just curious if the release of the "New" Titan XP is the reason the AIB cards are so slow getting out. They are pretty much the same chip from Nvidia.
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  3.    06 Apr 2017 #783
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    That and Nvidia's own 1080TI Founders edition. I remember when the 1080 was released and I was buying/waiting for the EVGA AIB card. Many retailers had the Nvidia 1080 but nobody had the AIB's for quite some time.
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  4.    06 Apr 2017 #784
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    And, that's what seems to be happening now. Nvidia wants to keep as many chips for itself as it can. The AIB Partners get the shaft, again. I'm sure they will be happy about that.
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  5.    06 Apr 2017 #785
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    Well... to play devils advocate why would I want my cards sitting on the shelf while my AIB partners see theirs flying off the shelves with more attractive builds. My last 3 AMD cards have been Sapphire, NOT AMD reference models
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  6.    06 Apr 2017 #786
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    My guess is Nvidia is well aware of the impatience of gamers/benchmarkers. And they know the sale will be made eventually, whether Founders or AIB.

    Since the release of Pascal, seems AIB's have had to get use to getting the shaft.
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  7.    06 Apr 2017 #787
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    I have never bought a Reference card. When Nvidia released the Titan X Pascal, I guess we should call it Titan XP #1, none of the AIB Partners were allowed to sell it. There was nothing but a Reference Titan XP #1 and only sold by Nvidia. I'm sure the AIBs were not real happy about that. Now that the TI has been released and the AIBs had to wait 2 or 3 weeks to sell their versions so Nvidia could sell theirs first, the AIBs were going to get to sell theirs, if Nvidia would send them the Chips to make them. So, when it is finally time for the AIBs to make some money from the TI, Nvidia releases the Titan XP #2, which just happens to use the same chip as the TI. From all appearances, the AIBs are having trouble getting the chips from Nvidia. Now that the Titan XP #2 has been announced, we suspect we know why they have trouble getting the chips, not to mention that Nvidia has undercut their supposed partners. nvidia has been hoarding them for themselves. As far as sales, I would hazard a guess and say that 95% of the Nvidia cards sold come from the AIBs. I realize Nvidia wants to make as much money as they can. But, if you are going to try and dictate terms to the AIB Partners, you have to give them a fair shot at the market. It would appear Nvidia has done the opposite. My guess would be the AIBs are not real happy right now. Also, it should be mentioned that when the AIBs sell a card, Nvidia makes money from that too. Just not enough for Nvidia I guess. It sounds like Nvidia may be getting too big for their own good. In the past several years a couple of the AIBs have threatened to leave Nvidia, EVGA being one, if you believe the rumors. The way this story is unfolding, we could be hearing more of that.
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  8.    06 Apr 2017 #788

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Sweet, people haven't even received their 1080TI's and they are already behind.
    Hahahahaha
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  9.    06 Apr 2017 #789
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    I have never bought a Reference card. When Nvidia released the Titan X Pascal, I guess we should call it Titan XP #1, none of the AIB Partners were allowed to sell it. There was nothing but a Reference Titan XP #1 and only sold by Nvidia. I'm sure the AIBs were not real happy about that. Now that the TI has been released and the AIBs had to wait 2 or 3 weeks to sell their versions so Nvidia could sell theirs first, the AIBs were going to get to sell theirs, if Nvidia would send them the Chips to make them. So, when it is finally time for the AIBs to make some money from the TI, Nvidia releases the Titan XP #2, which just happens to use the same chip as the TI. From all appearances, the AIBs are having trouble getting the chips from Nvidia. Now that the Titan XP #2 has been announced, we suspect we know why they have trouble getting the chips, not to mention that Nvidia has undercut their supposed partners. nvidia has been hoarding them for themselves. As far as sales, I would hazard a guess and say that 95% of the Nvidia cards sold come from the AIBs. I realize Nvidia wants to make as much money as they can. But, if you are going to try and dictate terms to the AIB Partners, you have to give them a fair shot at the market. It would appear Nvidia has done the opposite. My guess would be the AIBs are not real happy right now. Also, it should be mentioned that when the AIBs sell a card, Nvidia makes money from that too. Just not enough for Nvidia I guess. It sounds like Nvidia may be getting too big for their own good. In the past several years a couple of the AIBs have threatened to leave Nvidia, EVGA being one, if you believe the rumors. The way this story is unfolding, we could be hearing more of that.

    That's a good point Steve, and jives with what I said. Though I didn't realize it was that bad. That said, if EVGA were to leave NVidia for AMD, that would be great, but then they'd be going up against Sapphire which in my mind is the EVGA of NVidia, although less customer service friendly. That said, if EVGA was to move from NVidia and go AMD, I'd snag one of their cards.

    Of course all this is speculation, but it does sound like NVidia may be trying slow AIB's enough sell their cards first. And yeah, most (including us) would rather get an AIB card over a plain reference card any day. I think both companies are seeing this and may look to slow these guys down since it eats into their (AMD, NVidia) profits.
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  10.    06 Apr 2017 #790
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    I have never bought a Reference card. When Nvidia released the Titan X Pascal, I guess we should call it Titan XP #1, none of the AIB Partners were allowed to sell it. There was nothing but a Reference Titan XP #1 and only sold by Nvidia. I'm sure the AIBs were not real happy about that. Now that the TI has been released and the AIBs had to wait 2 or 3 weeks to sell their versions so Nvidia could sell theirs first, the AIBs were going to get to sell theirs, if Nvidia would send them the Chips to make them. So, when it is finally time for the AIBs to make some money from the TI, Nvidia releases the Titan XP #2, which just happens to use the same chip as the TI. From all appearances, the AIBs are having trouble getting the chips from Nvidia. Now that the Titan XP #2 has been announced, we suspect we know why they have trouble getting the chips, not to mention that Nvidia has undercut their supposed partners. nvidia has been hoarding them for themselves. As far as sales, I would hazard a guess and say that 95% of the Nvidia cards sold come from the AIBs. I realize Nvidia wants to make as much money as they can. But, if you are going to try and dictate terms to the AIB Partners, you have to give them a fair shot at the market. It would appear Nvidia has done the opposite. My guess would be the AIBs are not real happy right now. Also, it should be mentioned that when the AIBs sell a card, Nvidia makes money from that too. Just not enough for Nvidia I guess. It sounds like Nvidia may be getting too big for their own good. In the past several years a couple of the AIBs have threatened to leave Nvidia, EVGA being one, if you believe the rumors. The way this story is unfolding, we could be hearing more of that.
    TLDR...Nvidia is greedy
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