Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    03 Apr 2017 #731

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    I read about the new update yesterday, but still holding off upgrading my board. I'm still on 2202, which has been very stable for me. I did download 3401 thou.
    There was still a version after 3101, that was not a beta, 3201. But lots of folks reported problems with that one too.
    I had heard some had a 3201 update. The Formula VIII didn't. We were stuck with beta since December. It has been mentioned on the ROG forums that the Formula is typically the last to get updated. If true, don't know why. Perhaps the RGB stuff.

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  2.    03 Apr 2017 #732

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Just saw this news about Gigabyte boards, posted by simrick today..
    Gigabyte Firmware Flaws Allow the Installation of UEFI Ransomware
    That only applies to their Gigabyte BRIX small computing devices. Anyway unfortunately this is the world we live in now. And it could just as easily happen to any vendor supplying firmware or software updates.
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       04 Apr 2017 #733

    MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11 GB Review | techPowerUp

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    Today, we are reviewing our second custom-design GTX 1080 Ti, this time from MSI. The MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X comes with a moderately high overclock out of the box and the company's signature TwinFrozr thermal solution. Out of the box, the card is 7% faster than the reference "Founders Edition" card when averaged over our test suite at 4K resolution. This makes the card quicker than the much more expensive Titan X and a whopping 30% faster than the GTX 1080, which just a few weeks ago was the card every enthusiast wanted. AMD's fastest, the Fury X, is only able to deliver half the performance. This makes the GTX 1080 Ti a great option for 4K gaming as it is able to deliver 60 FPS at the highest settings in most of our titles. MSI did not overclock the memory chips, which could have yielded a little bit of easy extra performance as these new 11 Gbps GDDR5X chips work really well and reach close to 1500 MHz - a few MHz above 1376 MHz should have been no problem.

    MSI's thermal solution is similar to that of the company's previous cards, but has seen some changes under the hood. The heatsink uses five heatpipes to keep the GPU and voltage regulation circuitry cool. Below that sits a baseplate that cools the memory chips. A backplate is installed, too, but lacks the RGB illumination we've seen on the company's Gaming Z, which is no big deal in my opinion as long as a backplate is included. Just like on the ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX, the cooler's thickness has been increased to 2.5 slots, which seems to be becoming more common with GTX 1080 Ti designs. Graphics cards using more than two slots should be a non-issue these days since all motherboards have plenty of spacing; only users of small-form-factor cases should double check.

    I'm happy to report that the MSI cooler doesn't even come close to throttling, which we did notice on the GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition. In our testing with heavy gaming, the card reaches only 72C, which is a long way from the 83C thermal cutoff beyond which the card will reduce clock speeds. MSI has also included the idle-fan-off feature we love so much since it provides a perfect noise-free experience during desktop work, Internet browsing, and even light gaming. Gaming noise of the GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X is a lot better than what we've seen on the Founders Edition, but lacks the "wow" from the company's earlier Gaming X cards. It is certainly quiet with 35 dBA, but I think it could still be quieter given temperatures are low. ASUS does a little bit better here, having both lower temperatures and slightly lower noise, but the differences are small.

    Power consumption of Pascal is amazing, and the GTX 1080 Ti is no exception here. The overclocking and board design changes by MSI did reduce overall efficiency, though. It is roughly 15% worse than with the NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition. Some of that is expected due to the overclock out of the box, and around 280 W during gaming should be no problem anyway. The good thing is that this means upgrading the power input configuration from 6+8 to 8+8 was a justified move and is not just for show like we've seen on other cards.

    The MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X is currently available for preorder at a price point of $750, which is $50 more than the NVIDIA Founders Edition pricing. Considering that's a price increase of 7%, and the card gains 7% of extra performance out of the box thanks to its overclock, I'd say that's a reasonable price increase, and you get the better cooler on top. The price increase also looks more acceptable now that we've found out that the ASUS STRIX retails for $780. Compared to the ASUS STRIX, the MSI comes with higher clocks out of the box, but uses slightly more power too. Its cooler is also not doing as well as the one on the ASUS card: noise and temperatures are a bit higher. The ASUS STRIX offers a little bit more in features, like voltage measurement and tweaking points, the RGB backplate, and case fan headers, which the MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X makes up for in price. In my opinion, both cards are pretty much identical; an awesome choice for 4K gaming with only minor differences that won't make or break the deal for the majority of users.
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  4.    04 Apr 2017 #734

    Cliff S said: View Post
    1080Ti Porn:

    Those cards need to be overclocked i beat that Sli score with regular 1080's lol no lie check it out he scored somewhere 50000 i scored 54000+

    I want to see them overclocked because of regular 1080's in sli does better than 2xti's in sli stock then i have no damn idea what's going on smh serious business
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  5.    04 Apr 2017 #735

    Well the extreme edition was sold out so i got this one and i am going to pick it up today as well

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    We all know i can overclock the Sh*t out of these cards don't need an extreme edition this one will most likely match it anyway

    I'll probably will be testing all night time to party I ain't got no time to wait on shipping besides it's a 30 minute drive to get it
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       04 Apr 2017 #736
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  7.    04 Apr 2017 #737

    specialkone said: View Post
    Any of you with the Asus Z170 Maximus VIII motherboards (Formula, Ranger, etc) who were seeing the latest bios version as beta (3101) since December?

    Asus has finally released a non beta update 3401.

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    So far no issues for me but I hear some are having trouble getting XMP to work????
    I just updated this Z170 Pro to the 3401 and have no problems, including with XMP.
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  8.    04 Apr 2017 #738

    wordsworth said: View Post
    I just updated this Z170 Pro to the 3401 and have no problems, including with XMP.
    Thats good to know ....I am still holding off for now, still on 2202 which is very stable for me. Question for you, is your Asus overclocked?? Reason I ask is, I was wondering if you had to change your bios settings back to its defaults, before upgrading your bios to 3401.
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  9.    04 Apr 2017 #739

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Thats good to know ....I am still holding off for now, still on 2202 which is very stable for me. Question for you, is your Asus overclocked?? Reason I ask is, I was wondering if you had to change your bios settings back to its defaults, before upgrading your bios to 3401.
    No, I don't overclock the CPU, only set the XMP profile to run RAM at 3000. I would think it best practice though to set the BIOS back to default before a BIOS update. At least I would since messing with the BIOS is a little unnerving sometimes and I'd want to remove any possibility of a screw up.
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  10. Dude's Avatar
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       04 Apr 2017 #740

    Agree with above, always set defaults prior to update. You will lose any oc profiles when updating too
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