Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    16 Sep 2017 #3061

    essenbe said: View Post
    I hope it works out well for you Drew. I have no idea why the price is that way. I wouldn't have thought it would be the miners, they typically don't like paying that much for cards, as I understand it.
    Two things as play here - it's speculated that AMD screwed the pooch on pricing, and yes... those damn bit coin miners are driving up prices....



    Anyway Newegg is selling the RX64 for 699.99 with either a copy of Wolfenstein 11 or Prey.
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       16 Sep 2017 #3062

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    Two things as play here - it's speculated that AMD screwed the pooch on pricing, and yes... those damn bit coin miners are driving up prices....


    Anyway Newegg is selling the RX64 for 699.99 with either a copy of Wolfenstein 11 or Prey.
    New games are always appreciated. Good luck.
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       16 Sep 2017 #3063

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    ... those damn bit coin miners are driving up prices....
    Yep! A friend of mine asked me if I would like to help him build a mining pool server. He's already mining, but he's using cheaper Radeons. If the Vega is even close to proportionally as efficient(and faster) as many older Radeons, miners would def. use them.
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  4.    16 Sep 2017 #3064

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    I'm going for it.
    You've got 1080 performance, AMD's newest baby and things like this:

    "Testing Vega 64 was a pleasure. The card does perform nicely with games anno 2017 and does position itself in a very competitive performance bracket. We had little issues with the card really, though sometimes the perf is way worse (GTA5) compared to the GTX 1080, but then again excellent with, say, Battlefield 1. Well sure, there will be some anomalies, however driver support from team red has greatly improved over the past year or two. It'll all be addressed. One note I'd like to add is that I am fairly fascinated by the new HBCC feature. Much like 10 years ago with Turbocache (Nv) or Hypermemory (ATi) you can add an extra cache / memory pool or swap-file if you wish and assign it to the GPU to use at its disposal (at the cost of RAM memory). This implementation is a sound one, which so much more volume and bandwidth anno 2017 on your system memory available If you have plenty of system memory, this can benefit games in the long run with extensive high quality textures etc. Currently the benefits do not show up that much, but I am very excited to see this new feature. Time will tell, but there is good potential in the Vega chip alright."
    AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB review - Final words and conclusion

    I don't see anything to complain about there. And we finally have a Ten Forum member with a Vega 64. Speaking of complaining, if you don't post OSD game video with that Vega 64, I'm going to try to get you banned.
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  5.    17 Sep 2017 #3065

    specialkone said: View Post

    I don't see anything to complain about there. And we finally have a Ten Forum member with a Vega 64. Speaking of complaining, if you don't post OSD game video with that Vega 64, I'm going to try to get you banned.
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    LOL. I don't even have the card yet. I said, I'm going for it, not I got it :)

    Anyway I still have to come up with $700 dollars, something not readily available since I have some family issues to take care of first. Add that the card is a bit overpriced and I could easily get the EVGA 1080 FTW II for 100 bucks cheaper.

    But yeah, I think I'm going to get it, but probably sometime next month. Hopefully prices drop between now and then. With that, you guys know me, I'll post pictures and all when I do get it.

    Until then :)
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  6.    18 Sep 2017 #3066

    slicendice said: View Post
    Yep! A friend of mine asked me if I would like to help him build a mining pool server. He's already mining, but he's using cheaper Radeons. If the Vega is even close to proportionally as efficient(and faster) as many older Radeons, miners would def. use them.
    Bitcoin value is taking a real sock in the face recently when China announced it was shutting down all the Bitcoin markets and banning it. Value has dropped at least 40% last I heard.
    I had someone explain "mining" to me once. Sounds like a lot sucker bait to me.
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       19 Sep 2017 #3067

    Arelem said: View Post
    Bitcoin value is taking a real sock in the face recently when China announced it was shutting down all the Bitcoin markets and banning it. Value has dropped at least 40% last I heard.
    I had someone explain "mining" to me once. Sounds like a lot sucker bait to me.
    As a hobbyist currency trader I want to make one thing clear. When it comes to currencies, CryptoCurrencies or any currencies, they all fluctuate. A sudden 40% drop means nothing. No currency keeps growing forever, and I am a bit surprised BitCoin is as high as it is. Bitcoin is almost back at it's latest top again. We also have to remember that there are tens of active cryptocurrencies and BitCoin is the first and just one of them. :)

    Mining can be a good thing if you know what you are doing, but there are much better ways to make money and more money faster, that does not consume so much energy and take it's toll on nature. Mining is for those who are not ready to make efforts and earn the money they deserve from hard work. Kind of like "free"-money, though "something for nothing" does not exist. Someone or something always pay a price.

    If not interested in physical ways of earning money, a much better way would be to do trading, though it has it's risks, while mining is risk free if you have calculated the profitability correctly and your hardware does not break down. :)

    What does all this talk has to do with hardware, one may ask...

    ...well one could use fast hardware to calculate better probabilities for certain price fluctuations, that helps the trader to make better trading decisions with less risk. One of the things I'm working on at the moment. All stock-, currency- and Cryptocurrency rates has chart patterns that can be exploited for profitability when you find the correct relationship.
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       19 Sep 2017 #3068

    A little humor:

    My favorite part: "Ron, you can't run away, you're the manager!"
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       19 Sep 2017 #3069

    Cliff S said: View Post
    A little humor:

    My favorite part: "Ron, you can't run away, you're the manager!"
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  10.    19 Sep 2017 #3070

    Check out this high end Z8 HP workstation…


    HP's High end Z8 Workstation...

    • Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Linux
    • Dual Intel Xeon® Platinum 8180 (56 cores!)
    • Up to 3TB memory
    • Up to 48TB storage
    • 3X NVIDIA® Quadro® P6000

    HP Z8 Workstation | HP® Official Site



    More here...

    The rise of 4K (and 6K... and 8K) video, not to mention virtual reality and 360° content, means the computers of today need to grow up and they need to do it fast. 16GB of RAM, a decent video card, and 1TB of hard drive space just won't cut it for many professionals any longer... but even those professionals who need boatloads of power will probably go wide-eyed when they hear the specs of HP's new top-of-the-line desktop workstations.

    HP revealed its new Z8, Z6, and Z4 workstations today, and the company is not joking when it says the new desktops are equipped with "extreme power." In fact, the Z8 is being touted as "the most powerful desktop workstation on the planet." Here's why...

    Inside this mammoth of a PC you will find dual Intel Xeon CPUs with up to 56 processing cores, which are running your real-time 8K video editing session off of up to 3 terabytes of RAM. That is not a typo. You also have access to 9 PCIe slots (7 full size, 2 'personality' slots), dual 1GbE Ports, Thunderbolt 3 (optional), and USB 3.1 G2 Type C ports as well.

    The fully spec-d out Z8 is probably out of reach for many creatives, which is why there's also a Z6 and Z4. These workstations can't handle quite as much in way of raw processing power, speed, and storage, but they're still extremely capable machines.

    The Z6 also sports dual CPUs, can handle up to 384 GB of system memory, and features dual M.2 slots for HP's own Z Turbo Drive PCIe SSDs.

    The Z4 is a bit weaker still, housing only a single Intel Xeon W CPU, 256GB of RAM, as well as dual 1GbE ports and dual M.2 slots.

    The Z8 and Z6 will both be available in October, with the Z4 following shortly after in November. You can get the base model Z8 for just $2,440 but don't expect that to be a fully upgraded version... for that you'll likely need to shell out many thousands more. In contrast, the Z6 will run you $1,920 for the base model and the Z4 will cost $1,240.
    Source: HP reveals insane Z8 workstation: Can handle 3TB of RAM and 48TB of storage: Digital Photography Review
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