Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    25 Aug 2017 #2871

    CountMike said: View Post
    I'm just about to order Samsung SSD 250GB 960 EVO M.2 NVMe and wondering how much of an improvement is it over standard SSD drives in real life. Is it very visible or what ?
    I mean, judging by tests it's about 4 times faster than my faster SSD and 5 times faster than the other one. I know that jumping fro a HDD to SSD (even that older and slower one) was quite visible in normal work but that was also larger jump than going from SATA to M2 is.
    The biggest and most notable improvement for me was the lack of having to run a data cable and a power cable. It's fast, benchmarks great, but in real world it doesn't give me any noticeable performance improvement over standard SSD drives.
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       25 Aug 2017 #2872

    pparks1 said: View Post
    The biggest and most notable improvement for me was the lack of having to run a data cable and a power cable. It's fast, benchmarks great, but in real world it doesn't give me any noticeable performance improvement over standard SSD drives.
    But you use all that ancient hardware you always tell us about.
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  3.    25 Aug 2017 #2873

    essenbe said: View Post
    I went from a Samsung 2.5" SSD to a Samsung 250 GB 960 Evo M.2. As everyone has said, most things are pretty much the same. But I did feel everything was just a little more responsive and quicker. On my set up, I have noticed no heat issues at all and haven't seen/noticed any slowdowns. I transferred an 87 GB file last night and saw no slow downs in transfer speed.
    Honestly there's really no big difference in real world performance. I went from a Samsung 850 Pro to a Samsung 950 Pro NVMe and other than paper results, real word usage feels the same.

    Anyway I went with the 950 Pro drive when I moved to motherboard that supported NVMe drives natively. But yeah, no real difference real world.

    My two cents.
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       25 Aug 2017 #2874

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    Honestly there's really no big difference in real world performance. I went from a Samsung 850 Pro to a Samsung 950 Pro NVMe and other than paper results, real word usage feels to the same.

    Anyway I went with the 950 Pro drive when I moved to motherboard that supported NVMe drives natively. Anyway, yeah, no real difference other than benchmark numbers. Real world you're not going to see any real difference.

    My two cents.
    For some, it might depend on how much else is on that SATA channel. The NVMe PCIe being in the slot on the board may make a difference there. Would take a lot of benching to figure it out.
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       25 Aug 2017 #2875

    specialkone said: View Post
    That's one terrific job you did there worf. I like to keep my PC and components clean but somehow I think your 750D always looks better than mine. :)
    I like a clean system especially when it has a large window in it I wish to took some photos of the HP
    ProLiant before I cleaned it...... it was absolutely filthy

    Installing Ubuntu on it at the moment and have a play with it again as it works very well with 2GB RAM.

    Decided to Install Windows Server 2008 R2. Working very well indeed but must get my grubby hands on some more RAM.
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  6.    25 Aug 2017 #2876

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    The NVMe PCIe being in the slot on the board may make a difference there.
    which is what both my Z170 and Z270 boards allow

    In fact, I can see (feel) no discernable difference between my Samsung 850 Pro when it was the OS drive on my then Z87 board, and the Samsung 950 Pro NVMe (OS drive) on my now Z270 board in the M.2 slot. I'm sure benches show a difference, but in real world everyday performance, not so much.
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       25 Aug 2017 #2877

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    For some, it might depend on how much else is on that SATA channel. The NVMe PCIe being in the slot on the board may make a difference there. Would take a lot of benching to figure it out.
    SSD? Bad idea. I mean benching it a lot.

    By the way when I run performance test Mike, I run each unit one by one individually, saving Disk Mark for last, and only running it if my other scores are significantly higher, other wise, I don't bench it then.

    Mike here is the link to the driver: NVMe Driver 3.5MB Version 2.2: http://www.samsung.com/global/busine..._Driver_22.zip

    You can also go to: Tool Software | Download | Samsung V-NAND SSD

    we have a thread running and when Samsung post a new driver, I get it before the others, as Samsung allows a limited amount of downloads for the first few day to a week. Being in Europe(and waking up at 3:40 in the morning for early shift, I usually get a copy of the driver before the limit for the day is reached.
    Any how, here is the Samsung PCIe NVMe thread(current last page): Samsung's 950 Pro SSD - Page 6 - Windows 10 Forums
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       26 Aug 2017 #2878

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    Honestly there's really no big difference in real world performance. I went from a Samsung 850 Pro to a Samsung 950 Pro NVMe and other than paper results, real word usage feels the same.

    Anyway I went with the 950 Pro drive when I moved to motherboard that supported NVMe drives natively. But yeah, no real difference real world.

    My two cents.
    Most users won't see any significant difference between a NVMe and SATA SSD. The stuff I do is significantly affected by the added transfer speeds and IOPS. If all the user does, is check some mail, surf the web and play some games, the 4x performance boost will not be that significant.

    However, I work a lot with HUGE files and 100Ks of tiny files and an NVMe PCIe x4 SSD boosts these operations a lot. It's all in the numbers, and they reflect real world usage 1:1 for certain operations.
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  9.    26 Aug 2017 #2879

    Cliff S said: View Post
    SSD? Bad idea. I mean benching it a lot.

    By the way when I run performance test Mike, I run each unit one by one individually, saving Disk Mark for last, and only running it if my other scores are significantly higher, other wise, I don't bench it then.

    Mike here is the link to the driver: NVMe Driver 3.5MB Version 2.2: http://www.samsung.com/global/busine..._Driver_22.zip

    You can also go to: Tool Software | Download | Samsung V-NAND SSD

    we have a thread running and when Samsung post a new driver, I get it before the others, as Samsung allows a limited amount of downloads for the first few day to a week. Being in Europe(and waking up at 3:40 in the morning for early shift, I usually get a copy of the driver before the limit for the day is reached.
    Any how, here is the Samsung PCIe NVMe thread(current last page): Samsung's 950 Pro SSD - Page 6 - Windows 10 Forums
    Tnx, Cliff, this is my first Samsung SSD and specifically M2. I'll download everything in advance as I usually do that for all nw HW once I'm sure I'm getting it.
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       26 Aug 2017 #2880

    CountMike said: View Post
    Tnx, Cliff, this is my first Samsung SSD and specifically M2. I'll download everything in advance as I usually do that for all nw HW once I'm sure I'm getting it.
    You're welcome Mike, and don't forget to sub to the thread.
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