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  1.    15 Aug 2017 #2701
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
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    Quote Originally Posted by solarstarshines View Post
    Wow Steve that's awesome looks similar to the Phone i just ordered

    I hope you enjoy it
    It's not for me Tommy. I can't afford a cell phone. I just get to pay for my Wife's and Granddaughter's. It's an iPhone 7 Plus. About the price of another 1080 TI.

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  2.    15 Aug 2017 #2702
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Maine
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    It's not for me Tommy. I can't afford a cell phone. I just get to pay for my Wife's and Granddaughter's. It's an iPhone 7 Plus. About the price of another 1080 TI.

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  3.    15 Aug 2017 #2703
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
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    There is an update to OCCT: Home

    OCCT is a stability checking tool that was created back in 2003, and was regularly updated since. It enables you to fully test your computer's stability, using 4 different tests : CPU:OCCT and CPU:Linpack aimed at testing the CPU, GPU:3D for the GPU stability, and Power Supply, a combination of CPU:Linpack and GPU:3D to fully load your Power Supply.

    Each test can be run indefinitly, or for a fixed amount of time. You can even include an idle period at the beginning or at the end of a test, to better see how your computer's temperature rise from an IDLE state to fully loaded, and the other way round.

    OCCT also embeds a monitoring engine, giving you complete readings of the computers inner temperatures, voltages, and fan speed, and displays them both in graphs plotted in real-time and at the ne of a test. If you are worried about performance with the real-time graphs, don't : even if they are really light, just hiding the graph panel will stop them from refreshing.

    OCCT even protects your computer from overheating or damage by including alarms you can customize for every sensor : once you go above (or below) the alarm value for a temperature, voltage, or fan speed, the test will stop to protect your computer.
    Changelog : OCCT 4.5.1

    MAIN


    • Added Ryzen and Skylake-X support



    A great tool to check your overclock stability, that also saves the charts after stopping it, so you can see what you may need to adjust.
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  4.    15 Aug 2017 #2704
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    I'll pass if it requires a new motherboard.
    I'm hoping I don't have to replace my motherboard. Is this new chip going to use LGA 775 again????

    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    . As most 15 year olds do, she had some definite opinions on which hardware is the best. So, after the discussion I thought you guys would like to see what my new rig is going to look like.




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    That opinion is not just held by 15 year olds. Quite a number of adults are surprised that anybody would use anything other than an iPhone. However, these devices have certainly become the primary method of computing for many people. And if that doesn't work, they use an iPad.
    Quote Originally Posted by copiertech25 View Post
    My Ryzen system will be be delivered Wednesday! I know what I will be doing Wednesday Night!
    Cool, looking forward to see how you like it. I always keep my eyes open for what I might build someday.
    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    It's not for me Tommy. I can't afford a cell phone. I just get to pay for my Wife's and Granddaughter's. It's an iPhone 7 Plus. About the price of another 1080 TI.

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    My wife just recently upgraded her cell phone and switched over to my Verizon plan from AT&T. She went from a Galaxy S5 to an iPhone 7+. And I do pay that bill. At the end of the day though, for pretty much the same price as we were playing for just service on AT&T, she is on my unlimited Verizon plan and paying about $36 a month for the 7+ with 128GB of storage.
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  5.    15 Aug 2017 #2705
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    NW Florida
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    Sounds like it worked out well for you then. Nice job. Mine was from a paid for iPhone 6 to a iPhone 7+.
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  6.    15 Aug 2017 #2706
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Fife
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    That's a stall tactic as they should have been requested that info.

    Had to same BS reply when I was going through issues with my Sapphire card.... and the info was sent when I first requested help! Their replay... a few days later - "Sorry we didn't see it, can you confirm" WTF!!!

    Anyway hope you get your issue resolved. Good luck.
    Hi @sygnus21

    got the following reply from Zotac:

    ***********************
    Dear Andrew,
    You can do your propose retrofit and see if it will improve the cooling. Failing that you can perhaps try the following product (link)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARCTIC-Acc...38.m2548.l4275
    and
    https://www.alza.co.uk/arctic-accele...SABEgJlOfD_BwE
    (not tested, please check compatibility with supplier)

    Do not forget to keep all the bits and refit in case of warranty claim.

    PS the PCB is the same as Arctic storm however I have not found the cooler for sale on itís own.





    Ö

    Kindest regards,





    Eurotech Team
    *********************
    Less then useless support.
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  7.    15 Aug 2017 #2707
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    Seems you at least woke them up. I'm sure our smart worf knows what they are thinking about is if they did something for you they would have to provide the same modification for every other owner. So sygnus21 may be right.

    IMHO honey works best so a positive attitude with them at this point in the discussion may give you a better chance for success. "This is a great GPU and I just want to ensure VRM is as cool as possible. EVGA has fixed a similar issue with a thermal pad mod kit they sent to their customers. What would you (Zotac) recommend to get the VRM temps down? Would you be able to supply a thermal pad mod kit, even if it's optional?"

    The word optional may make their lawyers happy. The only position of strength you may have is the knowledge Zotac does not want Steve Burke talking about their GPU. After he reviewed their 1080 (with similar comments) their reaction was they wouldn't give him a 1080TI to review. That 1080TI he did review was from a consumer. If the discussions go south, you might consider telling Zotac you are thinking about using Gamers Nexus "Ask GN" feature to tell Steve Burke Zotac won't do anything about the VRM heat issue and see if he could post a video of a proper mod. Note that an "ultimatum" tone could end the conversation with Zotac one way or the other, as I'm sure you know.

    Good luck!
    @specialkone

    My response from Zotac

    Dear Andrew,

    You can do your propose retrofit and see if it will improve the cooling. Failing that you can perhaps try the following product (link)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARCTIC-Acc...38.m2548.l4275
    and
    https://www.alza.co.uk/arctic-accele...SABEgJlOfD_BwE
    (not tested, please check compatibility with supplier)

    Do not forget to keep all the bits and refit in case of warranty claim.

    PS the PCB is the same a s Arctic storm however I have not found the cooler for sale on itís own.





    Ö

    Kindest regards,
    Eurotech Team

    What would you suggest to reply with?
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  8.    15 Aug 2017 #2708
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,427
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Asus is no better, response to my last enquiery about proper BIOS update with AGESA 1.0.0.7 for my MB and problems with XMP:
    Dear
    I must inform you that we are only the technical support department and we do not handle development issues. The development department is in Taiwan and we do not have direct contact with them or information regarding BIOS updates.

    We can only offer you troubleshooting steps if you have an issue with the current released software or drivers.

    Unfortunately we cannot offer you more information about future BIOS updates or beta updates. Any information regarding this will be announced through the proper mass-media channels.
    Best Regards,
    Allen
    ASUS Technical Support
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  9.    15 Aug 2017 #2709
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    USA
    Posts : 1,575
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by worf105 View Post
    Hi @sygnus21

    got the following reply from Zotac:

    ***********************
    Dear Andrew,
    You can do your propose retrofit and see if it will improve the cooling. Failing that you can perhaps try the following product (link)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARCTIC-Acc...38.m2548.l4275
    and
    https://www.alza.co.uk/arctic-accele...SABEgJlOfD_BwE
    (not tested, please check compatibility with supplier)

    Do not forget to keep all the bits and refit in case of warranty claim.

    PS the PCB is the same as Arctic storm however I have not found the cooler for sale on itís own.
    I'd keep that email in case you do have to RMA the item. In this instance you have proof you we're given instructions to do what you did.
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  10.    15 Aug 2017 #2710
    Join Date : May 2015
    Posts : 1,551
    Windows 10 Pro 64

    Quote Originally Posted by worf105 View Post
    @specialkone

    My response from Zotac

    Dear Andrew,

    You can do your propose retrofit and see if it will improve the cooling. Failing that you can perhaps try the following product (link)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARCTIC-Acc...38.m2548.l4275
    and
    https://www.alza.co.uk/arctic-accele...SABEgJlOfD_BwE
    (not tested, please check compatibility with supplier)

    Do not forget to keep all the bits and refit in case of warranty claim.

    PS the PCB is the same a s Arctic storm however I have not found the cooler for sale on it’s own.







    Kindest regards,
    Eurotech Team

    What would you suggest to reply with?
    Rereading your original email to Zotac, I see your tone was perfect. You didn't challenge them on VRM heat. If you did you likely would have simply got a response that it's within spec. Instead your tone was concern about the VRM temps and asking for options to run the VRM cooler.

    You did get a bit better response than a polite "stick it" but not much. They mention your proposed retrofit (thermal pads), an artic accelero (from the GTX 660 days) and a third option they aren't even sure would fit. And then they tell you for warranty purpose if ever required make sure you set back to defaults. Terrific!

    You gave Zotac the opportunity to act like EVGA and they declined. My guess is you wouldn't get much further with them. Zotac does keep the GPU cool but if VRM/mosfets blew you would lose everything in an rma, including that unique Nvidia chip that is Nessie.

    Personally I wouldn't consider anything other than a thermal pad mod, easy to undo for warranty if you ever have to. But I'd be writing to "Ask GN" to see what an expert like Steve Burke says about those Zotac suggestions and to ask him how a proper thermal pad mod for Nessie would work.
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