Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    04 Aug 2017 #2481

    At the end of the day as long as you're happy with what you have that's all the counts :)
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       04 Aug 2017 #2482

    slicendice said: View Post
    Speaking of multiple cores...

    Yes a gamer does not need a gazillion cores, but I can see many places where more cores is better. I need a lot of cores for software development (not the development part but for compiling), and I also need many cores for virtualization. Then there is also some simulation computing that benefit a lot from multiple cores and multiple GPUs in vectorized calculations....and the list goes on and on...


    ...but yes, the Average Joe does not need all those gazillion cores, not for normal desktop usage nor for gaming. But that could change soon...as people were saying 10 years ago...

    ...so how soon is soon...as it has been proven many times, time is relative... ..we just have to wait and see when programmers learn to take better advantage of multiprocessing on both CPUs and GPUs.
    sygnus21 said: View Post
    Honestly, a lot of us don't need the machines we have, but hey, they sure plenty of bragging rights
    Yeah, but...
    all those wonderful PCIe lanes AMD is giving, while INTEL is being stingy


    Processor Cores/Threads PCIe lanes Base Clock Turbo 2.0 Turbo 3.0 TDP Price
    Core i9 7980XE 18 / 36 44 2.6 GHz 4.2 GHz 4.4 GHz 165 W $1999
    Core i9 7960X 16 / 32 44 2.8 GHz 4.2 GHz 4.4 GHz 165 W $1699
    Core i9 7940X 14 / 28 44 3.1 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.4 GHz 165 W $1399
    Core i9 7920X 12 / 24 44 2.9 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.4 GHz 140 W $1199
    Core i9 7900X 10 / 20 44 3.3 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.5 GHz 140 W $999
    Core i7 7820X 8 / 16 28 3.6 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.5 GHz 140 W $599
    Core i7 7800X 6 / 12 28 3.5 GHz 4.0 GHz na 140 W $389
    Core i7 7740X 4 / 8 16 4.3 GHz 4.5 GHz na 112 W $369
    Core i5 7640X 4 / 4 16 4.0 GHz 4.2 GHz na 112 W $242
    Threadripper 1920X 12 / 24 64 3.5 GHz 4.0 GHz 4.2 GHz (XFR) 180 W $799
    Threadripper 1950X 16 / 32 64 3.4 GHz 4.0 GHz 4.2 GHz (XFR) 180 W $999
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       04 Aug 2017 #2483

    Well, Intel is being stingy, but what the heck would you do with 64 PCIe lanes? Run a 4 card SLI at x16? Maybe a few raid cards? It really sounds good, but what will the average person use them for? The 28 lanes Intel is being stingy with will run a graphics card and 3 M.2 drives. I have 40 lanes and I have never used all of them or come close. If you use a regular 2 card SLI, I guess it would be nice to run them both at X16.
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       04 Aug 2017 #2484

    essenbe said: View Post
    Well, Intel is being stingy, but what the heck would you do with 64 PCIe lanes? Run a 4 card SLI at x16? Maybe a few raid cards? It really sounds good, but what will the average person use them for? The 28 lanes Intel is being stingy with will run a graphics card and 3 M.2 drives. I have 40 lanes and I have never used all of them or come close. If you use a regular 2 card SLI, I guess it would be nice to run them both at X16.
    I was thinking of more M.2 drives, as SLI isn't really supported anymore, and one good graphics card these days is better(and probably cooler for the case).
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.137 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       05 Aug 2017 #2485

    4 GPUs, maybe a few more add on card, 4 M.2 4x NVMe drives in RAID, 6-8 SSD/HDD in RAID, Dual 10GB LAN, AD WLAN, BT, 32-bit audio processor, A bunch of USB3.1 and Thunderbolt 3 peripherals and...your 64PCI lanes is not enough. Easy to use them all :)

    You guys have to remember that on most MBs today a lot of ports and plugs share those lanes, meaning that if you plug something in one port, another either gets disabled or both gets slowed down.
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  6.    05 Aug 2017 #2486

    essenbe said: View Post
    Well, Intel is being stingy, but what the heck would you do with 64 PCIe lanes? Run a 4 card SLI at x16? Maybe a few raid cards? It really sounds good, but what will the average person use them for? The 28 lanes Intel is being stingy with will run a graphics card and 3 M.2 drives. I have 40 lanes and I have never used all of them or come close. If you use a regular 2 card SLI, I guess it would be nice to run them both at X16.
    This is part of the hype of things - They tell you "we have more" but what good is more if there's nothing to consume it?

    I'm like you, at this point in time I see no use for it. To me it's just a gimmick to push sales and say we have more than Intel. I'm sure Intel will reply in kind, and then we'll all be sitting around with 64 or more PCI lanes waiting for something to come along and take advantage of them.
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  7.    05 Aug 2017 #2487

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    This is part of the hype of things - They tell you "we have more" but what good is more if there's nothing to consume it?

    I'm like you, at this point in time I see no use for it. To me it's just a gimmick to push sales and say we have more than Intel. I'm sure Intel will reply in kind, and then we'll all be sitting around with 64 or more PCI lanes waiting for something to come along and take advantage of them.
    Similar thing was with USB and Firewire as next best thing to sliced bread but was languishing for years and then just exploded. If there's an opportunity, somebody will be there to exploit it sooner or later. If it languishes too long it will just flop like PS/2 did.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.137 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       05 Aug 2017 #2488

    Speaking of average users...which average user would buy a $1000 CPU and a $600 MB? And not to forget Intel $2000+ CPUs. :) Those devices are not meant for an average user. I would say most average user has a low-mid end laptop because it's cheap.
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  9.    05 Aug 2017 #2489

    slicendice said: View Post
    Speaking of average users...which average user would buy a $1000 CPU and a $600 MB? And not to forget Intel $2000+ CPUs. :) Those devices are not meant for an average user. I would say most average user has a low-mid end laptop because it's cheap.
    Well, your average millionaire for instance.
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       05 Aug 2017 #2490
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