Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    30 Jul 2017 #2411

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Question for you guys, do you think "Over Provisioning" your C drive for a M.2 drive has good benefits, some say it even increases speed of writing, etc ...what do ya think??
    Just like any other one. It's there to provide parts of storage to be moved around so same cells are not used all the time. It may speed things up a bit when drive is overfilled and slows down because of that. Most drives have it hidden.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.137 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       30 Jul 2017 #2412

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Question for you guys, do you think "Over Provisioning" your C drive for a M.2 drive has good benefits, some say it even increases speed of writing, etc ...what do ya think??
    Yes, it is always a good idea. If your drive (all SSD type of drives) get full, you are in trouble. But if you have overprovisioned it, you can still get your system to boot, by just making the boot drive a bit bigger, so it has enough free space for the boot process. Also the less stuff you have on your SSD-type of drive, the longer it will last. SSDs always try to write new stuff in blocks that has been used the least. If your drive is almost full, it is difficult to find free blocks with fewest writes. The end result is slower drive and a drive that will die faster.

    EDIT: Just like @CountMike just said.
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  3.    30 Jul 2017 #2413

    CountMike said: View Post
    Just like any other one. It's there to provide parts of storage to be moved around so same cells are not used all the time. It may speed things up a bit when drive is overfilled and slows down because of that. Most drives have it hidden.
    Yes it would be hidden because its unallocated space on your drive. You can do it manually, or let a program like Samsung Magician do it. Right now this M.2 drive is only using about 9% of the M.2 thou. :)
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.137 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       30 Jul 2017 #2414

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Yes it would be hidden because its unallocated space on your drive. You can do it manually, or let a program like Samsung Magician do it. Right now this M.2 drive is only using about 9% of the M.2 thou. :)
    In the latest Samsung SSD drives, as far as I know, everything is written in the firmware. No Magician Software needed for that purpose. The old drives needed the Magician and some drivers for this purpose.
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  5.    30 Jul 2017 #2415

    slicendice said: View Post
    In the latest Samsung SSD drives, as far as I know, everything is written in the firmware. No Magician Software needed for that purpose. The old drives needed the Magician and some drivers for this purpose.
    Not correct, as Magician is still needed to check and update your firmware, and it will also make the space for the OP if you let it. :)
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.137 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       30 Jul 2017 #2416

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Not correct, as Magician is still needed to check and update your firmware, and it will also make the space for the OP if you let it. :)
    Yes, needed for firmware upgrades, but the overprovisioning can be done using Windows Disk Manager. Magician used to work differently, but it has completely changed since the latest updates.
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  7.    30 Jul 2017 #2417

    slicendice said: View Post
    Yes, needed for firmware upgrades, but the overprovisioning can be done using Windows Disk Manager. Magician used to work differently, but it has completely changed since the latest updates.
    Yes they have changed the latest software quite a bit, but it can still OP your SSD drives, if you allow it too. Its a option in the software, just like before.
    I don't use Windows Disk Manager, except to maybe look at what it sees.. I prefer other apps, like MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro which does anything I want. :)
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  8.    30 Jul 2017 #2418

    I don't overprovision. I don't think the general mass needs to either; especially with a modern SSD, and the fact that it costs you storage space.

    Some would find this an interesting read by Seagate - SSD Over-Provisioning And Its Benefits
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  9.    31 Jul 2017 #2419

    Incase anyone is interested ....
    EVGA Precision XOC Version 6.1.13 Released
    Release: 7/27/2017

    Fixes 1080 Ti FTW3 crash resulting from v6.1.12.
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  10.    31 Jul 2017 #2420

    I have to stop reading this thread. My wife finally got me to agree to having our floors replaced throughout our entire house. I just wrote a check costing more than my last 3 computers combined. Its been a costly home year for us in past 12 months, new furnace and AC, new roof, and now new flooring. good thing I paid off the mortgage last fall.
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