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  1.    22 Jun 2017 #2101
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    @sygnus21, that's a pretty solid laptop you got there. Did you find a great price deal on it? I'm always curious about what is out there, for what price.
    I'll just say even though I got a military discount, it was still an expensive machine. I ordered it direct from Lenovo will all the bells and whistles. The starting price (now) is $1364. Was 1600 when I ordered mine.
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  2.    22 Jun 2017 #2102
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    ^Yeah, that's why I always scoff a bit when somebody tells me "how much I overpaid" when I bought my MacBook Pro. They always say, "for $300 I could get a PC that.........". But it's never apples to apples...no pun intended.

    For an aluminum build, with a great touchpad, with a 13" screen that runs 2560x1600, with a 256GB SSD that ran on the PCI Express Bus, that's got a battery that still lasts 7ish hours (at over 3 years old), the price wasn't bad at all. I've been through a few OS upgrades, have never had a virus/malware, have never had to reload the OS, and rarely have to reboot, it's been great.

    I used to buy all of the laptops at my old job, and I was paying around $1700 for Dell Latitude's with Core i5's, 1920x1080 screens 256GB SSD, with 3 year Pro support. Those were more expensive than my Mac, and didn't hold up as well.
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  3.    22 Jun 2017 #2103

    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    This, coming from you, doesn't surprise me one bit. And this is the guy who holds onto his 1960's hardware because it overclocks so well. "Me thinks" you are totally bored with Pascal's (especially the 1080TI) inability to overclock. IMHO, the 1080TI's are fast, but a gamer's GPU way more than an overclocker/enthusiast GPU.

    What surprises me is how Nvidia blew off the overclockers with this round of GPU's to the point where reviewers, especially of the 1080TI, are talking about nothing more than fan noise and cooling.

    Will be interesting to see with the release of Volta if this is becoming an Nvidia trend.
    That's what i have thought as well Overclocking is dead with Pascal
    I don't think it will get any better seems they are just giving us the max it will run my 1080's over clock better than my Ti
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  4.    23 Jun 2017 #2104
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    This, coming from you, doesn't surprise me one bit. And this is the guy who holds onto his 1960's hardware because it overclocks so well. "Me thinks" you are totally bored with Pascal's (especially the 1080TI) inability to overclock. IMHO, the 1080TI's are fast, but a gamer's GPU way more than an overclocker/enthusiast GPU.

    What surprises me is how Nvidia blew off the overclockers with this round of GPU's to the point where reviewers, especially of the 1080TI, are talking about nothing more than fan noise and cooling.

    Will be interesting to see with the release of Volta if this is becoming an Nvidia trend.
    All of that isn't totally true, but partially is. I am a little disappointed in the overclocking, but with as fast as these things are, I am very impressed. Perhaps is is a matter of perspective. Coming from a 980, I am really impressed with how fast these things are. Maybe if I were coming from a 1080, I may think it was a real good improvement, but not exactly what I was expecting. I really don't know. But, Nvidia did take all the fun out of benchmarking. On Sevenforums we had some classic shootouts during the Kepler days. In some of the threads you could smell the smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by specialkone View Post
    I'm sure it does, as does my FTW 1080. However, my nephews sometimes browse this forum. If they get wind of essenbe selling his FTW 3 1080TI, I might be in big trouble.
    Give me their email address and I'll help you out.

    Quote Originally Posted by solarstarshines View Post
    That's what i have thought as well Overclocking is dead with Pascal
    I don't think it will get any better seems they are just giving us the max it will run my 1080's over clock better than my Ti
    Tommy, it really doesn't matter where you start out, it's where you end up. Even though you could overclock your 1080 more, your best overclock won't even come close to a 1080 TI at stock. Plus, if you bought it shortly after release, as I am sure you did, the 1080 and the 1080 TI were roughly the same price. I actually paid more for my 980 Classy than I did for the 1080 TI. They just took all the fun out of it. Maybe instead of making it 35% faster than the 1080, they should have made it 25% faster and let us overclock the rest. We would have ended up in the same place, but it would have been more fun getting there.
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  5.    23 Jun 2017 #2105

    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    All of that isn't totally true, but partially is. I am a little disappointed in the overclocking, but with as fast as these things are, I am very impressed. Perhaps is is a matter of perspective. Coming from a 980, I am really impressed with how fast these things are. Maybe if I were coming from a 1080, I may think it was a real good improvement, but not exactly what I was expecting. I really don't know. But, Nvidia did take all the fun out of benchmarking. On Sevenforums we had some classic shootouts during the Kepler days. In some of the threads you could smell the smoke.



    Give me their email address and I'll help you out.



    Tommy, it really doesn't matter where you start out, it's where you end up. Even though you could overclock your 1080 more, your best overclock won't even come close to a 1080 TI at stock. Plus, if you bought it shortly after release, as I am sure you did, the 1080 and the 1080 TI were roughly the same price. I actually paid more for my 980 Classy than I did for the 1080 TI. They just took all the fun out of it. Maybe instead of making it 35% faster than the 1080, they should have made it 25% faster and let us overclock the rest. We would have ended up in the same place, but it would have been more fun getting there.

    Steve you hit the nail on the head my man

    I'm honestly thinking there is some point they can't make it any more faster than they are either Nvidia is known for having a few Gen cards in their arsenal but don't release them no competition of course

    Pascal though is not like the previous chips voltage seems to be the enemy of pascal the more you use the worse it performs it's a wall somewhere but finding it is impossible the results change every run of a benchmark and just a slight increase drops your score

    Sli is another issue they promote it but only a handful use it and again Pascal scales pretty terrible on the TI side regular 1080's scale like champs

    Also if you notice the Aftermarket cards make it real hard to sli you need the FE edition to even fit them properly without killing some wiring
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  6.    23 Jun 2017 #2106
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    Tommy, I have often thought that the reason the TI was released when it was is to take the 'wind out of the Vega release'. The only problem was they did not know how fast Vega was. So, they just cranked up the TI close to max to make sure they were faster. That wouldn't leave a whole lot of Overclocking headroom. But, it sure makes for a pretty darn fast card for the money.

    The FTW 3 wouldn't be that hard to SLI. It is still a 2 slot card. All of EVGA's cards are, so far.
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  7.    23 Jun 2017 #2107
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    Sounds like these new cars would be great for me, they run great out of the box and don't require tons of tinkering. On the flip side, I dislike spending much more than about $300-$400 for a video card, so they aren't in my price range yet.
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  8.    23 Jun 2017 #2108
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    @pparks1, these cards are serious gamer's cards. I have never overclocked a card for gaming, only benchmarks. The day they create a game that the 1080 TI has to be overclocked to make it playable, most rigs wouldn't run it at all.
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  9.    23 Jun 2017 #2109

    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    Tommy, I have often thought that the reason the TI was released when it was is to take the 'wind out of the Vega release'. The only problem was they did not know how fast Vega was. So, they just cranked up the TI close to max to make sure they were faster. That wouldn't leave a whole lot of Overclocking headroom. But, it sure makes for a pretty darn fast card for the money.

    The FTW 3 wouldn't be that hard to SLI. It is still a 2 slot card. All of EVGA's cards are, so far.

    Yea it's fast as hell Overwatch on epic settings 3440x1440 100hz oc on the Monitor 21.9 Aspect ration i am getting 170+ frames from a single card
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  10.    23 Jun 2017 #2110
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    For those using the Afterburner Beta's(the last one being 4.4.0.9914.Beta 7
    A new stabile beta version(Beta 10) is out for download at Guru 3D

    MSI Afterburner 4.4.0 Beta 10 Download

    • Improved 5-channel thermal monitoring module architecture provides support for up to 20 independent thermal sensors per GPU (up to 5 independent GPU, up to 5 independent PCB, up to 5 independent memory and up to 5 independent VRM temperature sensors) on future custom design MSI graphics cards
    • Added NCT7802Y thermal sensors support to provide compatibility with future custom design MSI graphics cards
    • Improved hardware database format. New database subsections support provides more compact database definition for multiple graphics card models sharing similar hardware calibration info
    • New cached I2C device detection algorithm improves application startup time on the systems with multichannel voltage controllers or multichannel thermal sensors
    • Added experimental interleaved hardware polling mode, aimed to reduce hardware polling time on the systems with multiple polled I2C devices. When interleaved polling is enabled, just a part of hardware monitoring data sources is being polled on each hardware polling period, so it takes multiple periods to refresh all monitoring data sources. Power users may enable interleaved hardware polling mode via the configuration file if necessary
    • Improved third party voltage control mode functionality. Now third party hardware database can also include extended thermal sensors calibration and mapping info for third party custom design graphics cards

    iCX thermal sensors are in third party database now, so selecting third party voltage control mode in "General" tab should unlock access to them in hardware monitoring module.


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