Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    19 Jun 2017 #2041

    Cliff S said: View Post
    The Intel review embargo on i9 is now lifted/over.
    All over YouTube and the net, are the reviews being posted
    I noticed that today. Looking forward to getting home and watching a few.
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  2.    19 Jun 2017 #2042

    CountMike said: View Post
    That Tomb Raider must be a very single threaded game. It reacts too little to core numbers.
    Don't know of games that significantly benefit from 10 cores. Most are optimized for 4 or often less. Their BF1/ Watch Dogs 2 numbers aren't much different.

    Also, seems the P state issue has to be worked out:

    "I won't lie, the past two weeks with the Core i7 7900X and the X299 boards I have tested have been an absolute challenge. Memory XMP profiles would not stick, power consumption with one BIOS was OK, the other through the roof. But most of all the processor performance was all over the place. We've seen perf differences of up-to*20% in-between merely different motherboards. MSI however with it's latest BIOS seems to have found equilibrium. Now the biggest fight the two weeks was ironically game performance, it was severely lacking. Example a platform like this should run Rise of the Tomb Raider at 140 FPS at 1080p on a GeForce GTX 1080. We'd end up at 90~100 FPS. And that problem occurred with pretty much all games. I have been discussing this with the motherboard partners (as yes it is widespread) and we all agreed, it has everything to do with 'hardware P states' that Intel recommends to leave enabled for the new platform. Intel recommends certain power states to keep the TDP in line, as otherwise they simply cannot achieve that 140W TDP. For most overall tests that worked out okay enough, but specifically the toll on game performance was abysmal. Days before this launch MSI however released and provided a new BIOS, this restored the performance to what it needs to be. But as you have been able to see, the power consumption is certainly on that high-side. In the end though, the performance is there, but we do expect several BIOS updates that will have an effect in performance overall, in gaming and on power-consumption."*
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       19 Jun 2017 #2043

    Stuff like that is pretty common on all new platforms. Give them a month and they will all have bios updates to fix most of the issues. If you are interested, I would think a weekend vacation to the US would be pretty cheap in the long run.
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  4.    19 Jun 2017 #2044

    essenbe said: View Post
    Stuff like that is pretty common on all new platforms. Give them a month and they will all have bios updates to fix most of the issues. If you are interested, I would think a weekend vacation to the US would be pretty cheap in the long run.
    Yes I'm sure the P state issues will be worked out. Not sure any of it will make a difference on gaming, especially 1080P gaming. I suspect in time with all these new 6-10 core and up processors, game devs will eventually take advantage of it. I'll keep an eye on that. Should be interesting.

    Don't see that a visit to the U.S. would help much other than avoiding a possible exchange rip off. Still would have to exchange my CDN $ for U.S.

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       20 Jun 2017 #2045

    I don't know, this might interest one of you, it did me.
    Roman explains about the RFID chip on the new desktop CPU's(hint they're for the server chips)


    https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...heet-vol-1.pdf
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  6.    20 Jun 2017 #2046

    specialkone said: View Post
    My enthusiast side just told my gaming side that it would only cost $1,000 EACH for those 2 additional FPS in ROTTR that the I9 7900X setup would give me.
    The real question is whether or not you are doing 1080p gaming on a 144Hz model. If so, your current CPU is only allowing 138FPS, and thus not maxing out the monitor you have already invested in. Considering you are 6 FPS away from maxing out a 144Hz monitor, a 2FPS bump would be a 33% improvement. Looking at it that way, makes this a no-brainer.
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       20 Jun 2017 #2047

    pparks1 said: View Post
    The real question is whether or not you are doing 1080p gaming on a 144Hz model. If so, your current CPU is only allowing 138FPS, and thus not maxing out the monitor you have already invested in. Considering you are 6 FPS away from maxing out a 144Hz monitor, a 2FPS bump would be a 33% improvement. Looking at it that way, makes this a no-brainer.
    Yea, we finally won @pparks1 over. He's on our side now. Only a true enthusiast could use logic like that. I recognized it right away.
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  8.    20 Jun 2017 #2048

    The internet and youtube are exploding about the i9-7900X and i'm over here with a 5 year old FX-6300 ( Which replaced a 6 year old i5 2415M) that I bought a week ago. Really enjoying more than 2.9Ghz. never realized how much 1.1Ghz could speed things up. I'm getting a Ryzen 5 upgrade kit for Christmas.
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  9.    20 Jun 2017 #2049

    essenbe said: View Post
    Yea, we finally won @pparks1 over. He's on our side now. Only a true enthusiast could use logic like that. I recognized it right away.
    We absolutely have pparks1 on the dark side now. 25% of me is definitely on board with that logic.

    Actually those game review FPS numbers are averages which mean little to me in terms of refresh rate. My 144HZ monitor does 60, 100, 120 and 144. I'll typically set it and in game for each game to the minimum FPS I get. For ROTTR that's 100FPS/HZ, GOW4 at 120 and I consider myself "lucky" to be able to set it at 60 for GRW. I think the only game I have that never goes below 144 FPS at 1080P ultra is the incredible Doom. Some games are all over the place with FPS (typically bad console ports) and for those I leave the monitor at 120 and set no controls in game.
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       20 Jun 2017 #2050

    For other Aida64 users, a new update today: Downloads | AIDA64

    AIDA64 v5.92 Press Release
    Intel Skylake-X Benchmarks and AMD Radeon RX 500 Support
    BUDAPEST, Hungary – June 20, 2017 – FinalWire Ltd. today announced the immediate availability of AIDA64 Extreme 5.92 software, a streamlined diagnostic and benchmarking tool for home users; the immediate availability of AIDA64 Engineer 5.92 software, a professional diagnostic and benchmarking solution for corporate IT technicians and engineers; the immediate availability of AIDA64 Business 5.92 software, an essential network management solution for small and medium scale enterprises; and the immediate availability of AIDA64 Network Audit 5.92 software, a dedicated network audit toolset to collect and manage corporate network inventories.

    The latest AIDA64 update implements optimized benchmarks for the upcoming Intel Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X processors, and supports the latest graphics and GPGPU computing technologies by both AMD and nVIDIA.
    New features & improvements
    AVX2 and FMA accelerated 64-bit benchmarks for Intel Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X CPUs
    Improved support for AMD Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 processors
    Support for Pertelian (RS232) external LCD device
    Corsair K55 RGB LED keyboard support
    Corsair Glaive RGB LED mouse support
    20 processor groups support
    NVMe 1.3, WDDM 2.2 support
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    GPU details for AMD Radeon RX 500 Series
    GPU details for nVIDIA GeForce GT 1030, GeForce MX150, Titan Xp


    AIDA64 v5.92 Press Release | AIDA64
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