Windows 10: 2017 Hardware Thread

  1.    08 Jun 2017 #1921

    Laptop CPUs are tamed down desktop versions, with Intel they have "U" or "M" suffix.
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       08 Jun 2017 #1922

    essenbe said: View Post
    Tommy, a 140 Watt CPU in a laptop? Hope they are real cheap.
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       08 Jun 2017 #1923

    CountMike said: View Post
    Laptop CPUs are tamed down desktop versions, with Intel they have "U" or "M" suffix.
    True. I'm not a laptop person, but I don't recall ever seeing a laptop with a HEDT CPU in them. As far as I know, most laptops have a TDP of 35-45W. They reduce core count, frequency and everything else they can to get it down to that 35-45W TDP. Once you have done that, you can call it an i7 or i5 all you want, but it isn't. You have changed it into a completely different animal. It's a marketing gimmick as far as I'm concerned. A Laptop i7 and a desktop i7 are 2 completely different CPUs. Even for mainstream we all consider an i7 as 4 cores and 4 threads. In a laptop an i7 is 2 cores and 2 threads, with weaker cores and slower speed. They don't even approximate the same thing. But, that's just my opinion. They aren't called HEDT (High End Desktop) CPU's for no reason.

    AMD does te same thing because he problem is the same. How much cooling can you get into a laptop.
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  4.    08 Jun 2017 #1924

    essenbe said: View Post
    True. I'm not a laptop person, but I don't recall ever seeing a laptop with a HEDT CPU in them. As far as I know, most laptops have a TDP of 35-45W. They reduce core count, frequency and everything else they can to get it down to that 35-45W TDP. Once you have done that, you can call it an i7 or i5 all you want, but it isn't. You have changed it into a completely different animal. It's a marketing gimmick as far as I'm concerned. A Laptop i7 and a desktop i7 are 2 completely different CPUs. Even for mainstream we all consider an i7 as 4 cores and 4 threads. In a laptop an i7 is 2 cores and 2 threads, with weaker cores and slower speed. They don't even approximate the same thing. But, that's just my opinion. They aren't called HEDT (High End Desktop) CPU's for no reason.
    Exactly but even when they use same core it's so toned down that it doesn't even resemble the starting one.
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       08 Jun 2017 #1925

    CountMike said: View Post
    Exactly but even when they use same core it's so toned down that it doesn't even resemble the starting one.
    And why I have always said the term 'Gaming Laptop' is an oxymoron.
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  6.    08 Jun 2017 #1926

    essenbe said: View Post
    And why I have always said the term 'Gaming Laptop' is an oxymoron.
    I hate that word, "Gaming", it's been overused a lot. Any respectable computer will also be good at games. There's also many variations in games, it could be a Solitaire too and any computer could run that game. Some things are even ridiculous, like "Gaming Case" for instance, that should make a computer "Special" ?. A gaming computer may be X-Box and Play Station for instance but not a PC.
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  7.    08 Jun 2017 #1927

    I have used both Intel and AMD in the past. Last AMD I had was a Athlon 64 X2 4600+. Back in those days, they were crushing the old Pentium 4 platform. Since the introduction of the Intel Core series, I have never seriously considered AMD for my own use. The Ryzen CPU is the first one I have considered, but with early mobo issues, if I had to pick a new box today, it would be an Intel without hesitation. I am not obsessed with cores or threads. I don't feel obligated to overclock and/or benchmark. I just want good performance for a solid price. Today, I am happy with Intel.
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       08 Jun 2017 #1928

    This post is for @worf105
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  10.    08 Jun 2017 #1930

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