Windows 10: outdated motherboard

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  1.    13 Dec 2016 #21

    pothound said: View Post
    thank you all what started this thread was trying to get optimum performance out of my samsung 850 pro ssd. with all the information here i have several options. the first would be to learn how to update my bios to v17.20, hoping i will get ahci. secondly, get the gigabyte board which would need ddr4 ram and latest amd cpu, ouch. if i need to build again it would be an intel i5. a simple step by step on how to update bios would be appreciated. some of the videos i'm watching are confusing. thanks pothound
    No AMD motherboards have been made for DDR4 yet, the am3+ are all DDR3, or are thinking of the future ?
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  2.    14 Dec 2016 #22

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    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    My live update is version and is running on Windows 10 64-bit. I've flashed my motherboard bios with it. I probably have all the required .net frameworks, though. With the Live Update screen open, click on the i with the circle around it upper right corner.
    i called msi. i young man walked me thru installing v17.20 manually. i noticed better performance, but ahci was only in raid. i'm going to install a gigabyte 970a gaming sli motherboard. i can stay with my phenom ii 955 and my ddr3 ram. please comment if this a bad idea. later on i will build a new computer. thanks for your help. pothound
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  3.    14 Dec 2016 #23

    pothound said: View Post
    i called msi. i young man walked me thru installing v17.20 manually. i noticed better performance, but ahci was only in raid. i'm going to install a gigabyte 970a gaming sli motherboard. i can stay with my phenom ii 955 and my ddr3 ram. please comment if this a bad idea. later on i will build a new computer. thanks for your help. pothound
    Your SATA III controller is the Raid controller! That is exactly where you put the SATA ports in AHCI mode. The SATA III controller has three modes, IDE , Raid, and AHCI. You don't need a new motherboard to get AHCI, your current motherboard already has it. If you upgrade the motherboard only and don't upgrade the other hardware, the only noticeable performance increase will be from switching from IDE to AHCI mode and you can do that with your current motherboard.

    Prepare Windows 10 to switch to AHCI mode:
    Solved Attn. SSD owners - Enabling AHCI mode AFTER Windows 10 installation. - Windows 10 Forums

    Change the setting under Raid to AHCI. When Windows reboots and loads new drivers, look under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers and you will see an AHCI controller listed there. Before the change you will see an IDE controller listed there.
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  4.    14 Dec 2016 #24

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    hi in the bios i changed raid to ahci mode last week and my computer would not start. again today i tried it and the computer would not start. i'm sure you are correct, but something else needs to be changed. i went back into bios, changed it back to ide the computer started and repaired itself. i changed settings in the registry according to this forum. would it work if i changed the raid to ahci then run a new copy of windows? thank you pothound
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  5.    14 Dec 2016 #25

    You have to prepare Windows 10 before you change from IDE to AHCI in the bios. To do that you must uninstall the IDE disk controller under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers in device management. Shutdown the computer immediately after uninstalling the IDE disk controller. Also- it may not have been stated but you have to hold down the shift key when you click shutdown so you get a full and complete shutdown and not a fast startup hybrid shutdown. You might also have to actually remove the IDE disk controller in safe mode, but I have done it before without going into safe mode.

    After you have shutdown Windows with the IDE disk controller uninstalled in device manager, then you go into bios and change it to AHCI before rebooting into WIndows. On the next boot into Windows again, it will pick up the AHCI disk controller and install the driver for it.

    There are no manual registry entries required to do it.

    And yes, if you change it to AHCI and then do a clean install of Windows, it will also install the AHCI driver that way.
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  6.    15 Dec 2016 #26

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    hi thanks for staying with me. i have 2 hard drives installed. the samsung is 1st boot and the second is set to disable in the bios. i went to device manager in the ide controllers. there are 9 separate controllers in it, 3 channel 0, 3 channel 1, and 3 standard controllers. i wish i had computer knowledge. i was successful at getting the samsung ssd on ahci. when i rebooted i ended up with 1 channel 0, 1 channel 1, 1 standard dual channel pci ide controller, and 1 standard sata ahci controller. went into bios and it showed the samsung ssd as ahci.
    i can go into update driver and it shows a standard sata ahci controller in each of the other controllers. i thought about updating those drivers or uninstalling them, but not without your advice. i don't like the second hard drive in ide mode. thank you pothound
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  7.    15 Dec 2016 #27

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    hi i enabled the second hard drive in the bios and it is showing ahci mode. in device manager it is showing ide mode. i'll try updating driver again. pothound
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  8.    15 Dec 2016 #28

    Your motherboard has a SATA III RAID controller and an IDE controller. The IDE controller has a separate IDE port to connect older hard drives/optical drives to. You will always see an IDE controller in device manager because of that physical controller on your motherboard, unless you disable it in BIOS.

    If you right click on the Standard SATA AHCI controller in device manager, select properties, then the details tab. Under property, scroll down to children. There you will see the drives listed that are connected to the SATA ports and are operating in AHCI mode. In the main list of devices expand the disk drives device and you will see the matching disk drives there:

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  9.    15 Dec 2016 #29

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    hi you are the man. i did exactly what you did, and got the same results. i have ahci on all 3 drives. you saved me price and and aggravation of installing another motherboard. it was a tough go for me not being computer savy. the ssd is reading higher, and it is running good. i don't know of anything else to do. thank you for staying with me. pothound
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  10.    15 Dec 2016 #30

    Glad it all worked out for you! If you bought a new motherboard, I was going to offer to recycle your existing one because it would be an upgrade for an AM3+ socket computer I have now that only has SATA II
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