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  1. Joined : Jan 2016
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       04 Oct 2016 #11

    Joakia said: View Post
    What can be the problem?
    You listened to Jay.....he's a tool....
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  2. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 30
    Windows 10
       04 Oct 2016 #12

    Vellinious said: View Post
    You listened to Jay.....he's a tool....
    Yeah :P
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  3.    04 Oct 2016 #13

    Joakia said: View Post
    It looks fine to me The temps does not go higher than 50 under stress testing, and everything is working as it could. I almost think that I can go even higher if I want.

    Don't listen to that those chips can handle up to 1.5+ voltage
    If you are hitting under or 50 underload you can go higher the wall is 62c

    I pretty much gave you the specs of 8350 i used to have that chip sold it i have a 8320 in my daughters unit at 4.6 round the same voltage with a Corsair H75
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  4.    04 Oct 2016 #14

    Vellinious said: View Post
    You listened to Jay.....he's a tool....
    lol Dude is popular but he makes mistakes too ,I never took his advice thank goodness
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  5. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 387
    Windows 10 Pro 64
       05 Oct 2016 #15

    Joakia said: View Post
    It looks fine to me The temps does not go higher than 50 under stress testing, and everything is working as it could. I almost think that I can go even higher if I want.
    The 1.43V probably is fine. You might want to also look at the guru 3d review of the FX 8350 processor. It has the below section on overclocking. Their test is with a closed loop liquid cooler. They used 1.46V to achieve 4.7GHZ.

    Notice they state voltage between 1.4-1.55 making sure you have enough cooling. Note also that shut down is AMD's protection when you've reached either the heat, TDP or OCP limit.

    We have a few overclocking gurus on this board. I'm not one of them. But notice what solarstarshines is suggesting is in line with the overclocking suggestions for that CPU at Guru3D.

    "Overclocking
    The fun news about the FX series processors is that they will all come unlocked. That means the CPU multiplier is unlocked allowing you to easily gain a little extra performance.
    Overclocking wise you could use AMD OverDrive, but a true guru does his magic in the BIOS. With the new Turbo states you could alter the Max core but for ease of use we simply disable the Turbo mode altogether as we want a constant overclock on all eight cores.
    We got the processor*running up to 4700 MHz on all eight cores with a liquid cooler (the default AMD kit).
    Some generic overclocking guidelines in the BIOS:
    Disable Turbo mode
    Disable APM Master
    Disable thermal states
    Set CPU voltage anywhere from 1.4V to 1.55V (make sure you have enough cooling!)
    Set DDR memory voltage 0.10V higher for increased stability. E.g. 1.55V would be 1.65V
    Increase the base multiplier towards your preference e.g. 200 x a MP of 23 is 4600 MHz
    Again, make sure you have cooled your CPU and motherboard well. Don't skimp on cheap thermal paste.
    We now incrementally increase the CPU base multiplier and end up at a bus speed of 200 x 23.5 multiplier - 4700 MHz. To achieve this we needed 1.46 Volts on the processor.
    At this voltage level in combo with eight cores, the liquid cooler was able to keep the CPU cores low at roughly 50 Degrees C under massive multi-threaded CPU stress (Prime95).
    If, during this overclock, your system shuts down, that's a new protection from AMD. You've reached either the heat, TDP or OCP limit (this seems to happen once the CPU pulls more than 26.5A from the 12V CPU rails (8pin and 4pin connectors). If that happens decrease the voltage a bit.
    On the ASUS board tested today, when using the “High” setting for load line calibration the board should not reach the current protection limit that easily. Our end result on air thus is 4700 MHz on all eight cores.*
    The power draw however is intense as at this stage we consume roughly 356 Watts by stressing all eight CPU cores."

    AMD FX 8350 processor review - Introduction
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  6. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 30
    Windows 10
       05 Oct 2016 #16

    solarstarshines said: View Post
    Don't listen to that those chips can handle up to 1.5+ voltage
    If you are hitting under or 50 underload you can go higher the wall is 62c

    I pretty much gave you the specs of 8350 i used to have that chip sold it i have a 8320 in my daughters unit at 4.6 round the same voltage with a Corsair H75
    Its a very old chip, but it works very good for the low price. I thinking about buying a gtx 1070. I hope my FX will handle it without a strong bottleneck. VR is very demanding
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  7. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 30
    Windows 10
       05 Oct 2016 #17

    specialkone said: View Post
    The 1.43V probably is fine. You might want to also look at the guru 3d review of the FX 8350 processor. It has the below section on overclocking. Their test is with a closed loop liquid cooler. They used 1.46V to achieve 4.7GHZ.

    Notice they state voltage between 1.4-1.55 making sure you have enough cooling. Note also that shut down is AMD's protection when you've reached either the heat, TDP or OCP limit.

    We have a few overclocking gurus on this board. I'm not one of them. But notice what solarstarshines is suggesting is in line with the overclocking suggestions for that CPU at Guru3D.

    "Overclocking
    The fun news about the FX series processors is that they will all come unlocked. That means the CPU multiplier is unlocked allowing you to easily gain a little extra performance.
    Overclocking wise you could use AMD OverDrive, but a true guru does his magic in the BIOS. With the new Turbo states you could alter the Max core but for ease of use we simply disable the Turbo mode altogether as we want a constant overclock on all eight cores.
    We got the processor*running up to 4700 MHz on all eight cores with a liquid cooler (the default AMD kit).
    Some generic overclocking guidelines in the BIOS:
    Disable Turbo mode
    Disable APM Master
    Disable thermal states
    Set CPU voltage anywhere from 1.4V to 1.55V (make sure you have enough cooling!)
    Set DDR memory voltage 0.10V higher for increased stability. E.g. 1.55V would be 1.65V
    Increase the base multiplier towards your preference e.g. 200 x a MP of 23 is 4600 MHz
    Again, make sure you have cooled your CPU and motherboard well. Don't skimp on cheap thermal paste.
    We now incrementally increase the CPU base multiplier and end up at a bus speed of 200 x 23.5 multiplier - 4700 MHz. To achieve this we needed 1.46 Volts on the processor.
    At this voltage level in combo with eight cores, the liquid cooler was able to keep the CPU cores low at roughly 50 Degrees C under massive multi-threaded CPU stress (Prime95).
    If, during this overclock, your system shuts down, that's a new protection from AMD. You've reached either the heat, TDP or OCP limit (this seems to happen once the CPU pulls more than 26.5A from the 12V CPU rails (8pin and 4pin connectors). If that happens decrease the voltage a bit.
    On the ASUS board tested today, when using the “High” setting for load line calibration the board should not reach the current protection limit that easily. Our end result on air thus is 4700 MHz on all eight cores.*
    The power draw however is intense as at this stage we consume roughly 356 Watts by stressing all eight CPU cores."

    AMD FX 8350 processor review - Introduction
    Wow, I have never seen that review. Gonna look into it.

    I think its a bit weird how my temps is so low, even if I have 4.5 ghz and a air cooler. (cooler master hyper 212) Im going to try 4.6ghz and see if it works I have a aftermarket thermal paste applied. Does that make any difference?

    Also, I do have another little question. When I have my overclock applied, my GHZ never goes down. Its always on 4.5 ghz even if my PC doesnt have any huge load on it. Is this normal? When I have my PC on stock settings, my GHZ always goes down to 1.5 ghz when Im just chilling on youtube and such.
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  8. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 387
    Windows 10 Pro 64
       05 Oct 2016 #18

    Joakia said: View Post
    Wow, I have never seen that review. Gonna look into it.

    I think its a bit weird how my temps is so low, even if I have 4.5 ghz and a air cooler. (cooler master hyper 212) Im going to try 4.6ghz and see if it works I have a aftermarket thermal paste applied. Does that make any difference?

    Also, I do have another little question. When I have my overclock applied, my GHZ never goes down. Its always on 4.5 ghz even if my PC doesnt have any huge load on it. Is this normal? When I have my PC on stock settings, my GHZ always goes down to 1.5 ghz when Im just chilling on youtube and such.
    I have no AMD OC knowledge so will defer to solarstarshines or others on this. On my intel/Asus bios enabling intel speed step technology allows the CPU to down clock as required.

    As just a guess, do you have a "Cool n Quiet" setting you can enable in the bios? Check out this thread at Tom's on the subject:

    "To overclock you should turn turbo core off, however as long as you have Cool n Quiet enabled when you overclock you will only boost to your overclock when needed. For example launching an internet browser may boost your clock to 4.5Ghz for a couple seconds then it will idle down to somewhere around 1.5Ghz when a lot of processing power isn't needed. When gaming or doing something else CPU intensive it will crank back up to your overclock (4.5Ghz)."

    FX-8350 Turbo clock - Overclocking - CPUs
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  9.    05 Oct 2016 #19

    Joakia said: View Post
    Wow, I have never seen that review. Gonna look into it.

    I think its a bit weird how my temps is so low, even if I have 4.5 ghz and a air cooler. (cooler master hyper 212) Im going to try 4.6ghz and see if it works I have a aftermarket thermal paste applied. Does that make any difference?

    Also, I do have another little question. When I have my overclock applied, my GHZ never goes down. Its always on 4.5 ghz even if my PC doesnt have any huge load on it. Is this normal? When I have my PC on stock settings, my GHZ always goes down to 1.5 ghz when Im just chilling on youtube and such.
    When you disable turbo you will no longer have the option for it to lower to stock speed because you turned it off and locked the Multiplyer at a higher speed This is normal and expected

    If you want it to be like you first had it with turbo you have to up the turbo to the desired clock speed and change the voltage to offset mode and if you don't know how to work with offset mode you could do some damage

    Hyper 212 is a good cooler i had one too it does a good job any overclocks higher than 4.6 may need water
    the 1070 will not bottle neck if your CPU is at least 4.8 Ghz but you will need to go water at that point
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  10. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 30
    Windows 10
       06 Oct 2016 #20

    solarstarshines said: View Post
    When you disable turbo you will no longer have the option for it to lower to stock speed because you turned it off and locked the Multiplyer at a higher speed This is normal and expected

    If you want it to be like you first had it with turbo you have to up the turbo to the desired clock speed and change the voltage to offset mode and if you don't know how to work with offset mode you could do some damage

    Hyper 212 is a good cooler i had one too it does a good job any overclocks higher than 4.6 may need water
    the 1070 will not bottle neck if your CPU is at least 4.8 Ghz but you will need to go water at that point
    I see. Well, it cant hurt my cpu so much to run on a bit higher ghz. Maybe ill cut some years out of its lifetime but its worth it.

    Do you think I can get 4.7 ghz without liquid? I want to do like specialkonesaid and follow the guide he posted. (1.46V to achieve 4.7GHZ) 4.5 works good so far, so 4.7 might also work. When I use prime 95 with 4.5 ghz my temps goes to max 48. Gonna try testing some more today, and look at temps.
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