Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram

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  1. Posts : 23,319
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       #11

    STU9000 said:
    But that's what I did - apart from the fact there is no option to choose 1798 MHz ?
    I selected 1867 MHz instead and computer failed to boot



    That's what I said above... for the frequency, you need to choose 3600Mhz.
    The timings and voltage you're putting IN... are for 3600Mhz.



    Put these numbers in...
    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-image1.png
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  2. Posts : 123
    Windows 10 21H1
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       #12

    Ghot said:
    That's what I said above... for the frequency, you need to choose 3600Mhz.
    The timings and voltage you're putting IN... are for 3600Mhz.


    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-image1.png
    OK I misunderstood so the entry in the BIOS has to be 2x what it says in the SPD tab?

    Pretty sure I tried that already and it failed to boot

    How many times can I put my computer through this before it breaks?

    I don't think this RAM is compatible or at least fully compatible - I saw somewhere when I was looking into this that HP machines are designed like this
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    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #13

    STU9000 said:
    OK I misunderstood so the entry in the BIOS has to be 2x what it says in the SPD tab?

    Pretty sure I tried that already and it failed to boot

    How many times can I put my computer through this before it breaks?

    I don't think this RAM is compatible or at least fully compatible - I saw somewhere when I was looking into this that HP machines are designed like this

    Right... cause RAM is DDR (double data rate)

    Unless you seriously crank the RAM voltage... you won't break anything. Any other incorrect settings will just cause a fail to boot.




    Set it like the pic in post #11. If that doesn't work... just set the BIOS back to "Optimized Defaults"... (usually found on the EXIT tab in the BIOS).


    CPUs and motherboards... have their own limit for how high the DRAM frequency can go... also.
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    Windows 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Ghot said:
    That's what I said above... for the frequency, you need to choose 3600Mhz.
    The timings and voltage you're putting IN... are for 3600Mhz.



    Put these numbers in...
    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-image1.png
    OK I set it to this as I did before and again it failed to boot - unless I should wait for it flash at me and beep but I'm guessing not?

    Defaulted to this

    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-cpu3.jpg

    Let me try optimised defaults then

    - - - Updated - - -

    Couldn't find Optimised Defaults only these options which I assume are probably the same and it defaulted back to the last screenshot I posted up - same settings
    So I should just take this RAM out and use the one it came with then?
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    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #15

    STU9000 said:
    OK I set it to this as I did before and again it failed to boot - unless I should wait for it flash at me and beep but I'm guessing not?

    Defaulted to this

    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-cpu3.jpg

    Let me try optimised defaults then

    1064 for the frequency is really 2133Mhz in the BIOS.

    Setting up RAM on a prebuilt computer is HARD. Companies like HP and DELL, don't want you to mess around in the BIOS.
    You'll have to start... "building your own computers" if you want to mess around in the BIOS.

    Also... try this... Crucial RAM upgrade finder...

    Like so...

    https://www.crucial.com/compatible-u...5l-gt11-0012na
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  6. Posts : 23,319
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #16

    @STU9000


    This is "verified" compatible with your computer...

    Crucial Pro RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MT/s (or 3000MT/s or 2666MT/s) Desktop Memory CP2K16G4DFRA32A at Amazon.com


    NOTE: MT/s is the same as Mhz.
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  7. Posts : 123
    Windows 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #17

    So I'm finding out
    I'm not going back to this shop - they were full of advice until I bought this RAM and then I was on my own - I wonder what would have happened if I'd paid the £15 to get them to set it up for me
    I could sell this RAM and buy another 8GB stick as I think they were going for about the same price as 16GB or 32GB so all I can afford
    At least I've learned something
    Next PC I'm going to build myself and it's going to be on LINUX
    I'm a luddite when it comes to under the hood stuff but I once learned physics at university so I'm sure I can figure out what I need to do (with the help of the internets)

    That's another thing - Windows 10 is about to finish support (unless we pay £50 a year I heard) and if I upgrade to 11 for free I have no idea if my hardware will cope as well as it has with Win 10 - and then I'll have to upgrade my computer probably if I want the same performance

    Cheers anyway Ghot that's been really helpful I owe you a pint

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ghot said:
    @STU9000


    This is "verified" compatible with your computer...

    Crucial Pro RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MT/s (or 3000MT/s or 2666MT/s) Desktop Memory CP2K16G4DFRA32A at Amazon.com


    NOTE: MT/s is the same as Mhz.
    Looks good
    If only the shop had been as mindful of compatibility issues
    I went to ask their advice because I thought they would keep me right but they clearly haven't
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    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #18

    STU9000 said:
    So I'm finding out
    I'm not going back to this shop - they were full of advice until I bought this RAM and then I was on my own - I wonder what would have happened if I'd paid the £15 to get them to set it up for me
    I could sell this RAM and buy another 8GB stick as I think they were going for about the same price as 16GB or 32GB so all I can afford
    At least I've learned something
    Next PC I'm going to build myself and it's going to be on LINUX
    I'm a luddite when it comes to under the hood stuff but I once learned physics at university so I'm sure I can figure out what I need to do (with the help of the internets)

    That's another thing - Windows 10 is about to finish support (unless we pay £50 a year I heard) and if I upgrade to 11 for free I have no idea if my hardware will cope as well as it has with Win 10 - and then I'll have to upgrade my computer probably if I want the same performance

    Cheers anyway Ghot that's been really helpful I owe you a pint



    "Under the hood" stuff is a whole lot easier when you build your own. It's "designed" to be easier.


    It looks like your computer will support Windows 11. You can check for sure...
    Get this "portable" tool and run it...
    https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin...hyNotWin11.exe

    If you get all GREEN boxes like this... you're compatible with Windows 11..

    Help With BIOS Settings Installing New Ram-github-tool-results.png



    The RAM you have, probably is compatible, or it wouldn't work at all.




    And here's where to buy that Crucial RAM in the UK...

    Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory (CP2K16G4DFRA32A) - PCPartPicker
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  9. Posts : 123
    Windows 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Cheers

    Could I put the 8GB RAM card in with the 2 x 16GB and run it on the original default settings like I am now and would I get the same performance as before but with added RAM ?

    Or am I just asking for trouble...
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    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #20

    STU9000 said:
    Cheers

    Could I put the 8GB RAM card in with the 2 x 16GB and run it on the original default settings like I am now and would I get the same performance as before but with added RAM ?

    Or am I just asking for trouble...


    It's always best to use a matched two-stick set of RAM.

    Sell the Corsair stuff... or return it... and get the Crucial stuff I linked in post #18

    Save the original 8GB stick for emergencies.




    Here's the Crucial upgrade finder... for RAM or SSDs. I already plugged in all your computer numbers to find the RAM I linked. But you can do it yourself as well.

    Memory & SSD Upgrades | Crucial.com
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