Could you guys help me out with building a PC that is compatible to my

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    Max Pen said:
    Thank you



    I was wondering any tips one should know before disassembling the old pc and reassembling it with the new parts? Best practices etc Does one need to have a wrist thingy to stop electric shocks from affecting the hardware? Or do you need to wear gloves?

    Also I noticed the motherboard I choose does not have a error display like the one I got now. Is that going to make it difficult to debug boot issues and such if I misplaced a cable or something isn't plugged in 100%? it appears only to signal lights if something is wrong.


    1. Install the power supply first. Turn the switch on the power supply OFF, but leave it plugged into the power strip or wall.
    Now... the whole case is ground. Just touch the case metal before you touch a part. That will discharge the static electricity, in your hand.

    2. Make sure you use ALL the motherboard screws, and one and only one stand off for each screw. No more no less.

    3. The LED lights are one each for the CPU, RAM, vid card and boot device (SSD). Each light should come on for about a second then go off, and the next should come on. When all four have done this... things should boot normally.

    4. For hooking up the power supply to the motherboard and installing the various parts... just follow the motherboard manual.
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       #22

    Ghot said:
    1. Install the power supply first. Turn the switch on the power supply OFF, but leave it plugged into the power strip or wall.
    Now... the whole case is ground. Just touch the case metal before you touch a part. That will discharge the static electricity, in your hand.

    2. Make sure you use ALL the motherboard screws, and one and only one stand off for each screw. No more no less.

    3. The LED lights are one each for the CPU, RAM, vid card and boot device (SSD). Each light should come on for about a second then go off, and the next should come on. When all four have done this... things should boot normally.

    4. For hooking up the power supply to the motherboard and installing the various parts... just follow the motherboard manual.
    Alright thank you. My dad thinks I should get a power supply of 1000W, is that needed? In my old case I got now Silent Pro Gold 1000W. How much W should the power be at a minimum? Will I run into trouble with 750 or shouldn't I worry about it? As in what I choose now is more then enough to cover the needs of the pc build.

    Also I found out the name of my old case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D
    Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case (CC800DW) - PCPartPicker

    Do you think that my pc build will fit in there? Like the Mobo back par with asus STX essence soundcard
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       #23

    Max Pen said:
    Alright thank you. My dad thinks I should get a power supply of 1000W, is that needed? In my old case I got now Silent Pro Gold 1000W. How much W should the power be at a minimum? Will I run into trouble with 750 or shouldn't I worry about it? As in what I choose now is more then enough to cover the needs of the pc build.

    Also I found out the name of my old case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D
    Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case (CC800DW) - PCPartPicker

    Do you think that my pc build will fit in there? Like the Mobo back par with asus STX essence soundcard



    750W gold, platinum or titanium power supply will be fine, unless you get into the heavy duty vid cards.
    Like the 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090, etc.

    850W is the new 750W
    If you ARE going to get one of the heavy duty cards... then go with 1000W.
    That's a little bit overkill, but not much.
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    Ghot said:
    750W gold, platinum or titanium power supply will be fine, unless you get into the heavy duty vid cards.
    Like the 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090, etc.

    850W is the new 750W
    If you ARE going to get one of the heavy duty cards... then go with 1000W.
    That's a little bit overkill, but not much.
    Found this one thats 100W more and at the same price, MSI MPG A850GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (MPG A850GF) - PCPartPicker

    What do you think? Am getting close to buy all of these parts.
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    Max Pen said:
    Found this one thats 100W more and at the same price, MSI MPG A850GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (MPG A850GF) - PCPartPicker

    What do you think? Am getting close to buy all of these parts.


    MSI is too new to power supplies. Go with Seasonic...

    SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (FOCUS-GX-850) - PCPartPicker
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    Okay thank you. will choose that one. final question in regards to the CPU, my dad makes the suggestion to take a CPU with lower power consumtion, this one Intel Core i9-12900 2.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (BX8071512900) - PCPartPicker for example which also has a cooler included but is this cpu better in terms of preformance then the one I have currently chosen? Does it really make much of a difference for say electricity costs, is the saying true that lower TDP is better? the one with 65W does have Core Clock: 2.4 GHz versus Core Clock: 3.6 GHz, I don't want to use the overclock setting on either. so am I then better off with the 125W one?

    the one I picked now is: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor (BX8071512700K) - PCPartPicker

    8 Reasons to pick the Intel Core i9-12900:
    Slightly better average single-core performance, around +1%.
    Moderately better average multithreading performance, around +15%.
    Slightly better workstation effective value.
    Around 48% lower thermal design power.
    4 more cores.
    4 more threads.
    Higher Max Turbo Clock frequency (+100 MHz).
    Includes CPU cooler.
    3 Reasons to pick the Intel Core i7-12700K:
    20% cheaper, you can save €120.00.
    Moderately better single-core effective value.
    Higher CPU Clock frequency (+1200 MHz).
    Do they both support hyper-v virtualization btw? Also my build in total is 520W is that alot or around the average for pc builds?
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    Max Pen said:
    Okay thank you. will choose that one. final question in regards to the CPU, my dad makes the suggestion to take a CPU with lower power consumtion, this one Intel Core i9-12900 2.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (BX8071512900) - PCPartPicker for example which also has a cooler included but is this cpu better in terms of preformance then the one I have currently chosen? Does it really make much of a difference for say electricity costs, is the saying true that lower TDP is better? the one with 65W does have Core Clock: 2.4 GHz versus Core Clock: 3.6 GHz, I don't want to use the overclock setting on either. so am I then better off with the 125W one?

    the one I picked now is: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor (BX8071512700K) - PCPartPicker

    8 Reasons to pick the Intel Core i9-12900:


    3 Reasons to pick the Intel Core i7-12700K:


    Do they both support hyper-v virtualization btw? Also my build in total is 520W is that alot or around the average for pc builds?



    The "K" model is easier to overclock. The non-K model is lower TDP (wattage).
    You need to check the motherboard BIOS as well to see if virtualization is supported. The BIOS, CPU and OS all need to support it.
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    Ghot said:
    The "K" model is easier to overclock. The non-K model is lower TDP (wattage).
    You need to check the motherboard BIOS as well to see if virtualization is supported. The BIOS, CPU and OS all need to support it.
    So If I don't want to overclock then I should choose the non-K model with lower TDP? it won't hurt performance? How is your exp with CPU's that got a cooler included? Generally a good or bad thing? Also I tried finding that info for the motherboard and can't find it: ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 | ROG Strix | Gaming Motherboards|ROG - Republic of Gamers|ROG Global

    What am I supposed to be looking for?

    Also on the CPU how to see it is supported for the non-k modal? I want to be able to run hyper-v. I got a windows 10 pro license key so software is covered.


    I appreciate your help on this very much btw.
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    Max Pen said:
    So If I don't want to overclock then I should choose the non-K model with lower TDP? it won't hurt performance? How is your exp with CPU's that got a cooler included? Generally a good or bad thing? Also I tried finding that info for the motherboard and can't find it: ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 | ROG Strix | Gaming Motherboards|ROG - Republic of Gamers|ROG Global

    What am I supposed to be looking for?

    Also on the CPU how to see it is supported for the non-k modal? I want to be able to run hyper-v. I got a windows 10 pro license key so software is covered.


    I appreciate your help on this very much btw.


    You have to look in the BIOS settings in the motherboard manual.
    I'm pretty sure the mobo, CPU and OS can do it.

    This ain't your grandma's CPU... get a 3rd party cooler.
    Those CPUs have turbo boost up to 5Ghz. That's 5 billion operations a second. It's gonna get hot, even the 65W version.


    Yes the 12700 non-K supports virtualization technology.
    Bottom of the specs here: Intel Core i712700 Processor 25M Cache up to 4.90 GHz Product Specifications
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    Ghot said:
    You have to look in the BIOS settings in the motherboard manual.
    I'm pretty sure the mobo, CPU and OS can do it.

    This ain't your grandma's CPU... get a 3rd party cooler.
    Those CPUs have turbo boost up to 5Ghz. That's 5 billion operations a second. It's gonna get hot, even the 65W version.


    Yes the 12700 non-K supports virtualization technology.
    Bottom of the specs here: Intel Core i712700 Processor 25M Cache up to 4.90 GHz Product Specifications
    Thank you. I have looked but don't see it mentioned in the manual https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._UM_V6_WEB.pdf

    Can you confirm?


    Also I'm thinking of switching the GPU to this one MSI Radeon RX 6600 MECH 2X 8G Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (RX 6600 MECH 2X 8G) - PCPartPicker

    It seems to be much better as shown here Nvidia Gets OWNED: GeForce RTX 3050 vs Radeon RX 6600, 50 Game Benchmark - YouTube

    Do you agree that's a good choice?
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