New build in the making....

essenbe said:

John, you aren't going to pay $900 for a Motherboard are you? Try this one Robot Check

Actually, yes, I will - but which eATX mobo for this is quite possibly up in the air. As PC Parts only shows the AORUS Extreme and GodLike for eATX X570 boards....

solarstarshines said:

Yes no need to pay that much for a Board look at the Tuf series and please please get a good water cooler Corsair isn't good enough
3950x @4.325Ghz mem 3600 Fclk 1800mhz all core here is a picture
still working on it

There are features that this board has that others do not - Killer NICS being one of them, for sure. The included 10G PCIe NIC, along with Gigabit and 2.5Gb onboard NICs, the PCIe Riser board that accommodates 2 additional M.2 drives, and a whole slew of other things.

My original choice for the board was an even more expensive Gigabyte X570 AORUS Extreme....

sygnus21 said:

My only suggestion (other than perhaps a more powerful GPU) is to make darn sure you review the motherboard you're getting to insure all 3 NVME drives are not only supported, but also understanding which SATA / PCIE ports may be lost.

On my board cramming 3 NVME drives on it will cost me 2 SATA ports and a speed drop on my last PCIE slot (x4 to x2). As is, I've only got 2 NVMe drives installed, and 3 SATA drives installed.

Good luck.

Not worried about losing SATA connections. I'm only temporarily bringing over the mechanical drives to copy data, the large 960 GB SSD may be permanent, haven't decided, the smaller 256 GB will most likely never actually live there. I'll have 3 TB storage from the NVMe drives and if I do bring the 960 SATA over, it will quite possibly be used for File History, if I need it to be. As for speed drop - yes, it does change to 8 / 4 / 4, but even a 2080 card would not maximize the PCIe Gen 4 at 8x, so I'm not all that worried. I've done extensive research on this - I want the drive speed more than I need the PCIe lanes for anything else at the moment.

As for Video - the nVidia 3k series is launching soon so I'm waiting for those rather than buying anything older. For now, my 970 will suffice.

sygnus21 said:

Being a Gigabyte fan I say look at this... GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME. It's listed at $699, though currently put of stock. I have the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme (system one in system specs) and love it. Very well built.



Looking at the board JLG is going after, I wouldn't go for the Tuf series. If sticking to Asus, I'd look at the higher tier of boards in their lineup.

Also, regarding MSI, I'd seriously look at some reviews on their Godlike boards.

My two cents.

I was only going by prices in PC Parts Picker - if I can get the AORUS Extreme for anything under $900, I'll definitely opt for it versus the MSI. However, I suspect that the NewEgg price listed is for the Rev. 1.0 board, as they've released a Rev 1.1, which is priced over 1 grand. Compare Result | Motherboard | GIGABYTE

Any search for an X570 board at PC Parts Picker for eATX only shows those 2 and a third by MSI that is apparently no loner available:

Choose A Motherboard - PCPartPicker

solarstarshines said:

Think what you guys want it's fine
It's not like the Godlike will give anymore than i am getting with the Tuf but i see no point in spending that much to swap in a few years
Again just my two cents

Therein lies a problem. I don't swap every few years. I'm running this rig that I built in 2011 (not a typo) after Lightning fried my Core2Quad build from 2008. Same CPU, RAM and motherboard since it was built - up until right now, I'm typing on it to reply to these posts.

I build for endurance and longevity.

essenbe said:

Tommy, it has nothing to do with what I want. It's what John wants. I'm not trying to tell someone what to buy. If I was, it wouldn't be that board, but we all have our preferences.

True. But at the same time I do appreciate the commentary - it keeps me thinking - I spent all of the weekend doing this after thinking about it on and off for a couple of months. The nail in hte coffin ,so to speak, was that I was saving for a few projects, including a new fence at my new home, the impending service on my Infiniti, and a new computer.

Fence has been financed, which I didn't realize was possible, thanks to a re-finance on the mortgage. The service visit for the Infiniti was much lower than I expected it to be because I had forgotten I was already past the major 65k service schedule, which I did last year. So, all of a sudden, I have a surplus of saved funds.

So, instead of just buying a new mobo, RAM and CPU and using everything else, including my existing case, I decided it was time for a full rebuild, from the ground up. I played with numbers to see if I wanted to do a ThreadRipper build (which would have cut out a lot of the peripherals and such I included in this build), but decided that a complete replacement (except video card, which will be done in a couple of months or so) would be my better option.

I'm still playing with things, but the CPU is set in stone - and the RAM *may* be downgrade to 64 GB, but as of right now I'm sticking to the 128 GB so I can run multiple VMs and get back into the Windows Insider testing without having to run them live as I was doing for so long on my system (which meant a clean install every 3 months or so, which also meant a LOT of backend work that was taking up more and more of my time). Plus, quite possibly, some streaming soon, or recorded videos, if I get everything worked out, by December. So this is more of a work oriented machine and less of a gaming machine, though I will definitely be playing the odd game here and there.

solarstarshines said:

Totally agree it's his build not mine lol

No worries - I have thick skin, and am not (too) easily offended. As I said - I appreciate the commentary - even if I end up deciding to ignore all suggestions and go with what I've selected - at least there was discussion, and it made me really consider my choices.

I have a thought about your drive speeds ?

What about getting a Threaddripper PC they have all the lanes you need for m.2 & the CPU'S are they same thing in a bigger chip ?

The one I looked at has 4.0 X 4 on each m.2
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2M)
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2280 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2Q)
Integrated in the Chipset:
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2280 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2P)
8 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors

I started with a TR 3970X but that got a lot more expensive than this.

That CPU is almost 3X the price of the R9 3950X

johngalt said:

I was only going by prices in PC Parts Picker - if I can get the AORUS Extreme for anything under $900, I'll definitely opt for it versus the MSI. However, I suspect that the NewEgg price listed is for the Rev. 1.0 board, as they've released a Rev 1.1, which is priced over 1 grand. Compare Result | Motherboard | GIGABYTE

I'm actually quite shocked Gigabyte released another version of a board as they rarely ever do so. Of the 5 (Intel) Gigabyte boards I have only one made it to 1.1 and that was my first Gigabyte board (X58A-UD5). My current boards listed in my system specs (including the Xtreme) are still at 1.0.

Anyway Gigabyte's top end boards like the Xtreme are usually in limited quantity and can be hard to find or become even pricier as stock dwindles.

I actually got lucky when I found my board - I'd gone to Microcenter just to look around and wound up walking out with an 19-9900K processor and their last Z390 Xtreme board - the board was $515 after a $30 dollar discount for also buying a processor from them.

Good luck on whatever you do. BTW, where is it that the version 1.1 is over a grand.

sygnus21 said:

I'm actually quite shocked Gigabyte released another version of a board as they rarely ever do so. Of the 5 (Intel) Gigabyte boards I have only one made it to 1.1 and that was my first Gigabyte board (X58A-UD5). My current boards listed in my system specs (including the Xtreme) are still at 1.0.

Anyway Gigabyte's top end boards like the Xtreme are usually in limited quantity and can be hard to find or become even pricier as stock dwindles.

I actually got lucky when I found my board - I'd gone to Microcenter just to look around and wound up walking out with an 19-9900K processor and their last Z390 Xtreme board - the board was $515 after a $30 dollar discount for also buying a processor from them.

Good luck on whatever you do. BTW, where is it that the version 1.1 is over a grand.

This PC Parts Picker link showing both MSI and Gigabyte: Choose A Motherboard - PCPartPicker

I realize that these prices are not always up to date (I can find the MSI for ~$740 USD on Amazon right now, $700 on NewEgg) but that is what it says there. The $699 price for that AORUS EXtreme is also shown, at NewEgg, but also shows it is out of stock. Hence my supposition that the $699 price is on the 1.0 rev, no longer available, and PC Parts Picker hasn't updated the NewEgg link to the rev 1.1 price because NewEgg is not showing the rev 1.1 at all.

ThrashZone said:

Hi,
Yeah just the 3960x was double 3950x price which counted me out.

Yeah. I drooled on the 3970, but that is not happening unless I buy *only* a CPU and mobo - not even RAM lol!

Thanks for that - I have a microcenter somewhere here, since I am just outside of Atlanta, but when I actually go to start buying components you can bet your bottom dollar I'm shopping each components and buying it from the best available price ;D