Recommend hardware changes for upgrading from Win-7 to Win-10

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  1. Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
       #31

    Getting a SSD to install your Operating System on is the best and cheapest product to give any system a real boost.

    I recommend Samsung.

    Solid State Drives - Internal SSDs | Samsung US
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  2. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #32

    AddRAM said:
    Getting a SSD to install your Operating System on is the best and cheapest product to give any system a real boost.

    I recommend Samsung.

    Solid State Drives - Internal SSDs | Samsung US
    Won't get the full benefit. The SATA interface on that board is 3 Gb/s so tops off at 300 MB/s, more likely will see 250 MB/s. But still for the OS, it should run a lot smoother because of the greatly improved random access.
    Not sure if TRIM would work. So it may be important to do some over-provisioning.

    Really best to upgrade whole system.
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  3. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #33

    Geneo said:
    Won't get the full benefit. The SATA interface on that board is 3 Gb/s so tops off at 300 MB/s, more likely will see 250 MB/s. But still for the OS, it should run a lot smoother because of the greatly improved random access.
    Not sure if TRIM would work. So it may be important to do some over-provisioning.
    As it happens, I have a machine with an SSD on a SATA Gen2 300Gb/s interface so I can put some real world figures on that, along with those of an HDD for comparison. And yes, TRIM is available.

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    Really best to upgrade whole system.
    Budget permitting....
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  4. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #34

    Bree said:
    Budget permitting....
    Goes without saying

    Though to put it in perspective, if you upgrade interval is every 11 years. it is not that much per year. And 11 year old technology will not play that well with current day software in performance or compatibility.
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  5. Posts : 19
    windows 7 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #35

    Thanks to all the folks on this thread for your helpful comments. Particular thanks to Bree for earlier suggestions on how to create the media creation tool and install a free win-10 (64 bit) with my old Win-7 MS software key. Got the following hardware upgrades and rebuilt the computer and its working like a charm !!
    CPU - Intel i5-11600K
    MOBO - ASRock Z590
    RAM – Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB
    PSU - Seasonic S12III 650W
    SSD - WD Blue SN 550 500GB
    I decided to forego - for now - to make the computer capable to do flight simulation. The price of graphics processors have gone through the roof ~$800 on Amazon & out of stock at other vendors. I am told its because of the crypto currency the processors are being bought by the hundreds. I'll wait till the supply gets normalized. In the mean time am planning to use my old graphics card NVIDIA GeForce 8600.
    BTW. Before I made a clean install with the new hardware. I tried to install Win-10, 32bit on the old hardware to preserve my apps and do just an upgrade, and it would not load & gave me an error message. Got around that by removing one RAM stick and doing a reload with only 2 GB RAM instead of 4 GB. The install sailed through with no hiccups. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know why that worked. I read about it somewhere & tried it as a last resort & voila !!
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  6. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #36

    n2bn2b said:
    BTW. Before I made a clean install with the new hardware. I tried to install Win-10, 32bit on the old hardware to preserve my apps and do just an upgrade, and it would not load & gave me an error message. Got around that by removing one RAM stick and doing a reload with only 2 GB RAM instead of 4 GB. The install sailed through with no hiccups. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know why that worked. I read about it somewhere & tried it as a last resort & voila !!
    It sounds like you may have one RAM stick that was either faulty or not seated properly. Test your RAM with Memtest86+

    MemTest86+ - Test RAM
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  7. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #37

    I upgraded the following computers from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 10 64-bit.

    The common thing I did was increase the RAM from 4GB to 8GB. I found that even though Windows 10 64-bit will run with only 4GB it seemed faster with 8GB.

    On the second computer I replaced the boot HDD with an SSD. I was pleasantly surprised to see the boot time decrease from about 4 minutes to 1 minute. Also, with the SSD the computer was more responsive and more of a pleasure to use.

    12 year old computer
    CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
    RAM: 4GB (2x2GB)
    Boot drive: Seagate Barracuda HDD 300GB
    O/S: Windows 7 Home (32-bit)

    1st Upgrade
    RAM: 8GB (4x2GB)
    Boot drive: Seagate Barracuda HDD 1TB
    O/S: Windows 7 Home (64-bit)

    2nd Upgrade
    O/S: Windows 10 Home (64-bit)

    10 year old computer
    CPU: AMD Vishera FX-8350 X4
    RAM: 4GB (2x2GB)
    Boot Drive: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD
    O/S: Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)

    1st Upgrade
    RAM: 8GB (4x2GB)
    O/S: Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

    2nd Upgrade
    O/S: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

    3rd Upgrade
    Boot Drive: Samsung 870 EVO 2.5-inch SSD 1TB
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  8. Posts : 19
    windows 7 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #38

    [QUOTE=Bree;2273671]It sounds like you may have one RAM stick that was either faulty or not seated properly. Test your RAM with Memtest86+
    No the RAM stick was not faulty. Its been running OK for years with both 2GB sticks in place, showing that 3.2 GB in use with Win-7 32 bit. I need to dig out the web link where I read about removing one stick to get around the error Oxc00021a. Anyway I'm past that issue now with my upgraded build & a clean Win-10 install.
    Thanks again Bree in helping me get started with the rebuild
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  9. Posts : 7,905
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #39

    MisterEd said:
    I upgraded the following computers from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 10 64-bit.

    The common thing I did was increase the RAM from 4GB to 8GB. I found that even though Windows 10 64-bit will run with only 4GB it seemed faster with 8GB.

    On the second computer I replaced the boot HDD with an SSD. I was pleasantly surprised to see the boot time decrease from about 4 minutes to 1 minute. Also, with the SSD the computer was more responsive and more of a pleasure to use.

    12 year old computer
    CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
    RAM: 4GB (2x2GB)
    Boot drive: Seagate Barracuda HDD 300GB
    O/S: Windows 7 Home (32-bit)

    1st Upgrade
    RAM: 8GB (4x2GB)
    Boot drive: Seagate Barracuda HDD 1TB
    O/S: Windows 7 Home (64-bit)

    2nd Upgrade
    O/S: Windows 10 Home (64-bit)

    10 year old computer
    CPU: AMD Vishera FX-8350 X4
    RAM: 4GB (2x2GB)
    Boot Drive: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD
    O/S: Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)

    1st Upgrade
    RAM: 8GB (4x2GB)
    O/S: Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

    2nd Upgrade
    O/S: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

    3rd Upgrade
    Boot Drive: Samsung 870 EVO 2.5-inch SSD 1TB
    Boot time with a SSD system drive should be much faster than 1 minute
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  10. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #40

    Steve C said:
    Boot time with a SSD system drive should be much faster than 1 minute
    I disagree. This is a ten year old computer. One minute is much faster than it has ever booted even when Windows 10 was first installed. Note the one minute includes extra time because it is a dual-boot computer and the time to log in.

    Even my desktop with an AMD Ryzen 7 1700X on a ASUS PRIME X370-PRO motherboard takes longer than one minute to boot. Note its boot drive is an XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME M.2 SSD a well regarded SSD.

    Sure I have seen Dell and HP desktops boot in 10 seconds but I have never had a custom built desktop boot in less than one minute. I usually buy performance motherboards. These usually take longer to boot than OEM motherboards.

    BTW, I could get my desktops to boot faster by having no software installed and disabling all startup items but what is the point of doing that.
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