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  1. Posts : 30,120
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #11

    Interesting, especially as AIO coolers don't permit. Granted they are sealed so a lack of new oxygen or at least a slower absorption.

    I'll read that link.

    Thanks
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  2. Posts : 12,799
    Windows 11 Pro
       #12

    The link is pretty old but I think all the basics are covered. You also have to have the right case to do it. Some cases don't allow sufficient space to do it right. His HAF X case will hold a decent setup. I built my first custom loop in a HAF X.
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  3. Posts : 30,120
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #13

    I have one of those massive Phanteks Primo. I originally planned to do loop, but just never got off my ......
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  4. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
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       #14

    Excellent reply Steve and one I was looking for....

    essenbe said:
    Drew, I've built several custom loops, although none recently. It would really depend on how fancy you want to get, but I would say a minimum of $400-$500. You can go up from there. I seem to recall my last build was in the $800 range. It also depends on what you will cool (just CPU or CPU and graphics card)

    Maintenance is really not that much. If built right I used to drain mine and flush it out about once a year. I never had a problem with it.

    Yeah, you know me, if I'm going to put something in my PC it needs to be quality so I'm not surprised about 4-5 hundred dollar range so.... and I got you on "minimum". With that, yeah it's an expense I'd have to think long and hard about.

    As to the maintenance part, that doesn't seem bad at all. I usually go in my case at least 3 times a year for dusting and part checks so a once a yeah draining isn't taxing.

    And "If" I were to take the plunge, why not go GPU cooling, right?

    Anyway it's looking more and more like I'll probably just go with Cooler Master’s MasterCase H500M and stay with Corsair's AIO solution. I'm not really looking to crack any records OC wise, so....

    Still, custom cooling does appeal to me given my "artsy" side, but cost rules all

    Thanks.

    BTW have you checked out the motherboard? Outside the expense, you "might" be impressed - custom cooling, lighting, and OC'ing this is definitely a board to look at with ton of features and extras. It's also a heavy solidly built board.
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  5. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
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       #15

    essenbe said:
    The link is pretty old but I think all the basics are covered. You also have to have the right case to do it. Some cases don't allow sufficient space to do it right. His HAF X case will hold a decent setup. I built my first custom loop in a HAF X.
    Decent, but these new cases open up a whole new world there. I love my HAF X, but if doesn't provide the flexibility today's cases do with fan and rad placement. As I mentioned earlier, I had to "modify" the op of the case to fit my 280mm AIO rad at the top. It was never designed to hold a rad that big. There's also the limited placement of drives, and the ability to remove drive cages for better air flow. This is why I'm looking to upgrade, and where my Phantek Enthoo Luxe shines, but it's housing my backup system.
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  6. Posts : 1,113
    win 10
       #16

    I am of the opinion that it's not really fair to compare an AIO to a full custom loop.

    If done properly the full loop should always give better performance. At a cost of course. Most of the components for a full loop are able to be used over many many builds as well.

    Draining loops is very easy if you plan for it from the start. You can plumb in a drain plug at the lowest point and good to go. I just used distilled water with no additives.
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  7. Posts : 246
    Win 11 Pro
       #17

    doorules said:
    I am of the opinion that it's not really fair to compare an AIO to a full custom loop.

    If done properly the full loop should always give better performance. At a cost of course. Most of the components for a full loop are able to be used over many many builds as well.

    Draining loops is very easy if you plan for it from the start. You can plumb in a drain plug at the lowest point and good to go. I just used distilled water with no additives.
    Now I'm tempted. I feel like a coward with all my AIO stuff. Thanks for the tips.
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  8. Posts : 12,799
    Windows 11 Pro
       #18

    doorules said:
    I am of the opinion that it's not really fair to compare an AIO to a full custom loop.

    If done properly the full loop should always give better performance. At a cost of course. Most of the components for a full loop are able to be used over many many builds as well.

    Draining loops is very easy if you plan for it from the start. You can plumb in a drain plug at the lowest point and good to go. I just used distilled water with no additives.
    My first advice to people is usually don't build a custom loop without a drain line. If you do you have a nightmare when you need to drain it.

    I really think people who do custom loops don't consider an AIO watercooling. To everyone else in the world an AIO is just a cheap way to do watercooling.
    @Caledon Ken, I used to have the Enthoo Primo. That is a great case and was built for custom loops. I had 2 360 X60mm radiators in mine and could have added 1 more and possibly 2. If you are doing watercooling it is one of the best cases I know of. It has a lot of great features even without water.
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  9. Posts : 1,113
    win 10
       #19

    @essenbe

    I was trying to be some what diplomatic Steve. But seeing as how we are being candid I am one of those people, lol.

    I just installed new quick couplers on my lines. They make swapping out stuff really quick with no mess. Again not cheap but they are a one time buy, so worth it to me.
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  10. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #20

    doorules said:
    I am of the opinion that it's not really fair to compare an AIO to a full custom loop.
    I completely understand this, and totally agree. That wasn't the point. I merely suggest I can get away with an AIO as opposed to the expense of a custom setup. And yes, I'm of the opinion a custom setup would outdo any AIO.

    essenbe said:
    I really think people who do custom loops don't consider an AIO watercooling. To everyone else in the world an AIO is just a cheap way to do watercooling.
    Well they are compared to time, money, and effort to install a custom setup. Outside of that, they work very well for their intended audience - quick, cheap (price) and easy to use. Plus they don't take up a lot of space.
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