My New Newb Build: Any suggestions and advice is highly welcome!

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  1. Posts : 235
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    Thread Starter
       #11

    Will do. Thanks. You da' boss.

    ignatzatsonic said:
    The Z370 chipset is found on a lot of motherboards from Asus and Gigabyte. I'd probably go with one of those 2 brands in the mid-upper range. Pay attention to the number of ports and slots and feature list. Most likely something in the 150 to 250 range. I'd avoid what appears to be the very high end (300 plus). Might easily find something fine under 200.
    Go to Newegg or Amazon and see what you can do and then post your adjusted hardware list.
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  2. Posts : 12,809
    Windows 11 Pro
       #12

    Right now they only have the high binned ones (expensive) but, they will delid yours for $45 and have a fast turn around. It's really nice not to have to worry about CPU heat.

    https://siliconlottery.com/collectio...products/delid
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  3. Posts : 235
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       #13

    Thanks for the info but I didn't understand what you said. I'm an idiot with this stuff. I guess Silicone Lottery is a website that sells CPU's? What does it mean to be going on air?

    Update: Forget it. I finally figured it out. (I have to look up every other word and kind of piece things together). I guess you're saying is that if I just use a fan to cool the 8086k, my CPU will automatically hit 80-90 degrees which is really bad.

    So, you're saying that I should definitely delid it (change the outer metal part) so that the temperature will go down 20-25 degrees.

    Ok. Definitely thanks for telling me this. It's going to help a lot since I wasn't going to liquid cool it which I would never be able to install myself.

    solarstarshines said:
    I will mention this only because i own a 8680k

    Look into buying your CPU from Silicone Lottery if you are going on Air you don't have to get anything extreme but they will make sure to Delid repaste and reseal your CPU for assured lower temps

    Otherwise on air it would be hitting hi 80's and mid 90's just on stock
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  4. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #14

    Going on air means using an air cooler, not liquid.

    Silicon Lottery supplies modified Intel CPUs and MIGHT be worthwhile if you insist on an 8086 processor. It is effectively an 8700k with a factory overclock, so it tends to run a bit hot. Silicon Lottery will change the pre-applied paste on the processor for a fee. That would make it run a bit cooler.

    But I don't know how hot it might run without using Silicon Lottery CPUs if you were using a Noctua U14S, which is a high quality single tower.

    You could avoid the 8086 and get the 8700k without the factory overclock, and not worry about temps.

    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare.../3937vsm516988

    Look at above link for info on performance difference between 8086 and 8700k. It ain't much, and you'd save a few bucks, plus not pay Silicon Lottery.
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  5. Posts : 2,546
    Windows 11
       #15

    CerebralFreeze said:
    Thanks for the info but I didn't understand what you said. I'm an idiot with this stuff. I guess Silicone Lottery is a website that sells CPU's? What does it mean to be going on air?
    Wasn't making it sound that way but i can understand where you are coming from what i mean by Air is by cooling by Air coolers only not All in one Water Blocks
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  6. Posts : 2,546
    Windows 11
       #16

    essenbe said:
    Right now they only have the high binned ones (expensive) but, they will delid yours for $45 and have a fast turn around. It's really nice not to have to worry about CPU heat.

    https://siliconlottery.com/collectio...products/delid

    The 5.0 Ghz is 499.00 and they have a sale on the 5.2 Ghz for 499.00 -30 off just went to the website so the standard binned 5.0Ghz cost as much as the 5.2Ghz right now
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  7. Posts : 12,809
    Windows 11 Pro
       #17

    If he has a Microcenter near him he can buy one for $380 or Amazon for $415. Add the $45 for delidding and it's still cheaper than $499, especially so at Microcenter. You or I would get the 5.2 one without question. But not everybody wants to overclock it. Cheaper is better.
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  8. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #18

    Yeah, Steve--the OP is on record as not being an overclocker. I'd guess 98% of those who deal with Silicon Lottery ARE overclockers.

    I'd try to find out how hot a stock 8086k might run with a Noctua U14S. I guess the worldwide supply of 8086Ks is only 50,000, but there should be test reports of stock 8086K machines with various coolers out there, but I haven't looked. The factory overclock is only 300 hz, so I seriously doubt if temps would be unacceptable.

    If I thought the additional cost of the 8086K was worth it compared to the 8700K, I'd find it hard to justify bothering with Silicon Lottery when not overclocking.

    What about needing a 1080 graphics card for his mentioned intended use? Is that necessary? I haven't used a video card in 10 years.
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  9. Posts : 12,809
    Windows 11 Pro
       #19

    I didn't see anything but business use and VMs. If he is not a gamer, he doesn't need a 1080. Personally, I wouldn't go without a graphics card of some kind, but a lower model would suit him if he isn't a gamer or does graphics work.

    The 7700K and 8700K are pretty darn hot chips too. Delidding will bring them down 20-25°C and some have claimed 30°C. That's significant and well worth $45 to me. If the 8086 is hotter, more reason to delid, in my opinion. I think Silicon Lottery claims 20°C. That sounds about right to me.
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  10. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #20

    Newegg, New, $200 - $300, $100 - $200, LGA 1151 (300 Series), ATX, Intel Z370, ASUS, GIGABYTE, Intel Motherboards, Motherboards, Components - Newegg.com

    Above is a list of Asus and Gigabyte Z370 motherboards at Newegg up to $300 that should be compatible.
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