Windows 10: Hardware advice reqd.-Architectural design, photoshop +video editing


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    Windows 10-64 bit (version 1607 build 14393.1944)
       02 Jul 2018 #1

    Hardware advice reqd.-Architectural design, photoshop +video editing


    I am planning to build a new cpu. I have an old cpu currently with i3 2nd generation processor and 1TB WD hard drive. The hard drive is just 2-3 months old and I intend to use it in my new CPU build.

    I do architectural work which involves making 3D models of buildings in SketchUp and still image photorealistic rendering in V-Ray. (To know what exactly is v-ray rendering, watch this video- V-Ray 3 for SketchUp ‚Äď Now Available! - YouTube)

    I also do photo editing work in Photoshop and use layout and graphics software viz. Adobe InDesign (used for magazine and book layouts) and Adobe Photoshop. I do occasional video editing that consists mostly of slide shows and the videos are of 4-5 minute duration in Adobe Premiere. I never intend to play any games on my CPU.

    My budget is 45000 Indian Rupees.


    I have shortlisted the following components.

    1) Processor Ė Iím unable to decide which model
    a) Intel i5 -8400 priced at Rs. 14890
    b) Intel i5- 8500 priced at Rs. 17500
    c) AMD Ryzen 5 (1600) @3.2 GHz priced at 14,900

    2) Graphics Card Ė Zotac Geforce GTX 1050 Ti Ė 4GB priced at Rs. 15,600

    3) RAM stick 1 = 8GB Corsair priced at Rs 6,983
    RAM stick 2 = 4GB Corsair priced at Rs4,799 , so a total of 12 GB RAM totalling to price = 6983+4799 = Rs 11,782

    4) Motherboard = GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AM4 AMD B350 SMART FAN 5 HDMI M.2 SATA USB 3.1 Type-A Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboard priced at Rs. 8870 (Check here Amazon.in: Buy GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AM4 AMD B350 SMART FAN 5 HDMI M.2 SATA USB 3.1 Type-A Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboard Online at Low Prices in India | Gigabyte Reviews Ratings)

    I went to http://thebottlenecker.com to check overclocking information and pairing the graphic card of my choice and Ryzen 5 was resulting in 36 percent bottleneck. I was quite surprised. It is suggesting my graphic card priced steeply at Rs 56,000 and above! Same goes for intel i5 processor 8400 version with the same graphics card and resulting in 33 percent.

    I have been using Lenovo laptop with i5 3rd generation and AMD radeon 8570 graphics card. Iíve run into some problems off and on with graphics not displaying correctly or facing windows freeze. I am of the notion that pairing an intel hardware with AMD one is not good. Though Iím really not confident about my statement and need clarification with you guys. I also have a notion that keeping all the hardware the same, a pair of intel processor and Nvidia graphics card will perform better than the Ryzen processor and Nvidia graphics card.

    I checked out the benchmark scores for intel i5 8th generation processors that I have listed and of Ryzen 1600.
    • Intel i5-8400 @ 2.8 Ghz scores 11785
    • Intel i5-8500 @ 3GHz scores 12091
    • And Ryzen 5- 1600 @ 3.2 GHz wins at a score of 12,287!! I so much want to buy Ryzen but need full performance review for it and check for any issues as well.


    Please advise about buying the right hardware. I am also not quite sure whether 8GB would do or would I require 12 GB of RAM. For the last 3-4 years I have been using i3 2nd generation processor with 8GB DDR3 RAM and Nvidia geforce GT730 graphics card of 2GB capacity. I am looking for double the speed of this setup. Bottlenecker website is suggesting 16GB of RAM which I highly doubt.

    I have also listed Ryzenís disadvantages from a reddit thread located here A detailed Pros and Cons list for ryzen : Amd

    Disadvantages
    -Worse single-threaded performance Whew, the big one. Ryzen does do worse in single-threaded applications. Intel takes the cake with single threaded performance, but people only want maximums these days. Ryzen has a much, much more consistent gaming performance.

    -Ram incompatibility Another big one, Ryzen did have some memory issues on launch, but they have since been (mostly) fazed out

    -Less optimization Since AMDís bulldozer architecture was so terrible, most game developers have optimized their games for intelís CPUs

    -You might run into more problems with ryzen There are some problems exsistent in Ryzen (such as some very select mobos needing a bios update to support Ryzen 5)

    -Does poorly with slow ram Ryzen needs fast memory, which adds some to the budget. Not much but still a consideration.


    Tomís hardware mentions Poorly optimized software ecosystem on this page listed below. I donít know what is the meaning of it.

    AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Pros & Cons - Tom's Hardware
    Last edited by archz2; 02 Jul 2018 at 08:38.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  2.    03 Jul 2018 #2

    archz2 said: View Post
    I am planning to build a new cpu. I have an old cpu currently with i3 2nd generation processor and 1TB WD hard drive. The hard drive is just 2-3 months old and I intend to use it in my new CPU build.

    I do architectural work which involves making 3D models of buildings in SketchUp and still image photorealistic rendering in V-Ray. (To know what exactly is v-ray rendering, watch this video- V-Ray 3 for SketchUp ‚Äď Now Available! - YouTube)

    I also do photo editing work in Photoshop and use layout and graphics software viz. Adobe InDesign (used for magazine and book layouts) and Adobe Photoshop. I do occasional video editing that consists mostly of slide shows and the videos are of 4-5 minute duration in Adobe Premiere. I never intend to play any games on my CPU.

    My budget is 45000 Indian Rupees.


    I have shortlisted the following components.

    1) Processor Ė Iím unable to decide which model
    a) Intel i5 -8400 priced at Rs. 14890
    b) Intel i5- 8500 priced at Rs. 17500
    c) AMD Ryzen 5 (1600) @3.2 GHz priced at 14,900

    2) Graphics Card Ė Zotac Geforce GTX 1050 Ti Ė 4GB priced at Rs. 15,600

    3) RAM stick 1 = 8GB Corsair priced at Rs 6,983
    RAM stick 2 = 4GB Corsair priced at Rs4,799 , so a total of 12 GB RAM totalling to price = 6983+4799 = Rs 11,782

    4) Motherboard = GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AM4 AMD B350 SMART FAN 5 HDMI M.2 SATA USB 3.1 Type-A Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboard priced at Rs. 8870 (Check here Amazon.in: Buy GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AM4 AMD B350 SMART FAN 5 HDMI M.2 SATA USB 3.1 Type-A Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboard Online at Low Prices in India | Gigabyte Reviews Ratings)

    I went to http://thebottlenecker.com to check overclocking information and pairing the graphic card of my choice and Ryzen 5 was resulting in 36 percent bottleneck. I was quite surprised. It is suggesting my graphic card priced steeply at Rs 56,000 and above! Same goes for intel i5 processor 8400 version with the same graphics card and resulting in 33 percent.

    I have been using Lenovo laptop with i5 3rd generation and AMD radeon 8570 graphics card. Iíve run into some problems off and on with graphics not displaying correctly or facing windows freeze. I am of the notion that pairing an intel hardware with AMD one is not good. Though Iím really not confident about my statement and need clarification with you guys. I also have a notion that keeping all the hardware the same, a pair of intel processor and Nvidia graphics card will perform better than the Ryzen processor and Nvidia graphics card.

    I checked out the benchmark scores for intel i5 8th generation processors that I have listed and of Ryzen 1600.
    • Intel i5-8400 @ 2.8 Ghz scores 11785
    • Intel i5-8500 @ 3GHz scores 12091
    • And Ryzen 5- 1600 @ 3.2 GHz wins at a score of 12,287!! I so much want to buy Ryzen but need full performance review for it and check for any issues as well.


    Please advise about buying the right hardware. I am also not quite sure whether 8GB would do or would I require 12 GB of RAM. For the last 3-4 years I have been using i3 2nd generation processor with 8GB DDR3 RAM and Nvidia geforce GT730 graphics card of 2GB capacity. I am looking for double the speed of this setup. Bottlenecker website is suggesting 16GB of RAM which I highly doubt.

    I have also listed Ryzenís disadvantages from a reddit thread located here A detailed Pros and Cons list for ryzen : Amd

    Disadvantages
    -Worse single-threaded performance Whew, the big one. Ryzen does do worse in single-threaded applications. Intel takes the cake with single threaded performance, but people only want maximums these days. Ryzen has a much, much more consistent gaming performance.

    -Ram incompatibility Another big one, Ryzen did have some memory issues on launch, but they have since been (mostly) fazed out

    -Less optimization Since AMDís bulldozer architecture was so terrible, most game developers have optimized their games for intelís CPUs

    -You might run into more problems with ryzen There are some problems exsistent in Ryzen (such as some very select mobos needing a bios update to support Ryzen 5)

    -Does poorly with slow ram Ryzen needs fast memory, which adds some to the budget. Not much but still a consideration.


    Tomís hardware mentions Poorly optimized software ecosystem on this page listed below. I donít know what is the meaning of it.

    AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Pros & Cons - Tom's Hardware
    Until literary a month ago a used my computer (look in "My computer" ) for a lot of ACAD + Maya work as well as some video composition work and it was as much as 10 times as fast as my other system. It's obviously (look at my GPU) as good in gaming but for everything else was actually perfect for it's money. Only thing that was "missing" was amount of RAM but with fast M.2 SSD it wasn't large issue.
    During last year or so I upgraded gradually from initial R5 1600x to R7 1700x and finally to R7 2700x + X470 motherboard + faster RAM (3000MHz > 3600MHz) each one gradually increasing performance.
    If you are thinking about Ryzen system, go straight for newest chipset and Ryzen 2000 series processor. Initial memory (RAM) problems are overcome now but still requires good MB and chipset to achieve best performance/money ratio.
      My ComputersSystem Spec


 

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