Windows 10: Upgrading a very old PC - suggestions?

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  1. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
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       18 May 2018 #11

    After much thought I've decided it's probably smarter to spewnd a bit more and go with the 8th gen cpu and a board the necessary 3000 series chipset. That gives me more future options ... assuming future options are an option. (I'm 72 years old. Future options may be limited. :)

    Given that I've decided to go with an i5 8400 and have narrowed the MB list down to
    • ASUS Prime H370-Plus
    • GIGABYTE H370 HD3
    • GIGABYTE Z370 HD3

    I don't really have any need for the Z370 chipset but two Gigabyte boards cost nearly the same.

    Any comments about the motherboards? Any easy way to choose between Asus and Gigabyte?
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  2. Berton's Avatar
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    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       18 May 2018 #12

    For older computers the UEFI is not necessary with clean installs or Upgrades, Win10 will just do its thing. I've done several and they work fine, mostly use smaller than 1TB HDDs.
    What Is UEFI, and How Is It Different from BIOS?
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  3. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
    Thread Starter
       18 May 2018 #13

    Berton said: View Post
    For older computers the UEFI is not necessary with clean installs, Win10 will just do its thing.
    I realize that, and "older" probably applies as much to the 4 and 5 year old computers that I use as to the 9 year old. But if I decide I want to give UEFI a try, I want it supported on my test PC.

    Lack of UEFI is just one of a number of things not supported on the old PC. Poor USB 3 and SATA 3 support are a couple of other things that make this a poor test bed.

    I've decided on the upgrade. Now it just a matter of choosing the bits and pieces. That's why I asked about the motherboard choices.
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    Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Pro Insider
       18 May 2018 #14

    I'm a bit partial to Asus boards, but my advice is to look at the user ratings several places and choose one with the better ratings as well as the one with the features you want/need. Reliability and features are the most important options. It's nice to have one with 2 ethernet connections and built-in wi-fi unless you never connect to the internet and have no need for all the connectivity. That's my best advice, buy the features you require.
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  5.    18 May 2018 #15

    +1 for the Asus brand

    My first mobo was an Asus and it's still around and kicking (M4N78 Pro) for an AMD CPU. Then was talked into a Gigabyte mobo when I did my first complete build. Nothing wrong with Gigabyte mobo as it works great. I still partial to Asus.
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  6. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
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       18 May 2018 #16

    My needs are pretty minimal ... even on my "production" PC.
    • A DVI-D and/or VGA/D-sub 15 (or HDMI plus an adapter) for my monitor
    • At least 1 Ehternet port
    • some USB 2 ports (and headers for a couple more)
    • some USB 3 ports
    • a PS/2 port would be nice
    • at least 4 SATA III ports on the board (I SSD, 2 HDDs, 1 DVD)
    • 2-channel analog audio for headphones

    I don't need integrated WiFi support. I've got a USB WiFi adapter for when I want WiFi.
    I don't need a 2nd Ethernet port. I have a USB 3.0 Ethernet adapter.

    I absolutely don't need RGB lighting support. I'm irritated that cycles and board space would be wasted on it!

    The 3 boards I mentioned, all within $10 of each other, handle my needs.
    (Gigabyte looses a few points in my book for providing support for RGB lighting.)
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  7. Berton's Avatar
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    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       18 May 2018 #17

    My newest is an ASUS with AMD CPU and nVidia GeForce video card but also have 3 machines with GigaByte boards running AMD CPUs with ATI/AMD Radeon video cards.
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  8.    18 May 2018 #18

    Another Asus fan here, 3 PC's with Asus motherboards and one with MSI. Had a bad experience with Gigabyte boards a few years back, two failed with leaking capacitors, I know that's no longer an issue however once bitten.....
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    Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Pro Insider
       18 May 2018 #19

    In this day I think all boards have support for RGB and even RGB on the board itself. Just a sign of the times, I guess. At least you can turn it off. Asus seems to have the reputation of putting the newest features on boards before anyone else. My Z370 has, USB 3.1 ports on it, which may be of interest to you. It's the newest version of USB and is supposed to be much faster than 3.0. I don't know if all boards have that.
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  10.    18 May 2018 #20

    MB & CPU combo


    You might want to check the Portatech web site PortaTech.com -- Computers Made Easy. They sell most of the newer AMD and Intel CPU's with "guaranteed compatible" mother boards, memory etc. I bought a MB, CPU, memory combo last year and was very satisfied. Everything came pre-assembled on the motherboard, which made an easy install. I am about to purchase another combo from the same company
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