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  1. Posts : 2,979
    Windows 11
       #531

    Thanks Cliff. In that video they spread the liquid metal so widely on the IHS that it looks like the liquid metal will sit right over the top of those 4 SMD's close to the DIE Did they nail polish that first?
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  2. Posts : 27,183
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #532

    Kol12 said:
    Thanks Cliff. In that video they spread the liquid metal so widely on the IHS that it looks like the liquid metal will sit right over the top of those 4 SMD's close to the DIE Did they nail polish that first?
    Good question
    Buildzoid's method is better.
    But still use something to protect the SMD's, as the warming and cooling of the CPU might let something drip after a while, due to the IHS expanding and contracting over time.
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  3. Posts : 2,979
    Windows 11
       #533

    Cliff S said:
    Good question
    Buildzoid's method is better.
    But still use something to protect the SMD's, as the warming and cooling of the CPU might let something drip after a while, due to the IHS expanding and contracting over time.
    That's what I was thinking, squishing of the IHS back on pushing liquid metal off the sides of the DIE or heat doing the same thing. Maybe liquid metal doesn't do that as much as other thermal pastes but from what I've seen you only need a very small amount of LM. In this video Der8auer does a delid and there is no nail polish to be seen, nor does he mention the SMD's

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  4. Posts : 27,183
    Win11 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
       #534

    Hey Kol, except for how he applies the liquid metal itself(I like Buildzoids method better), this is a really thorough guide(nail polish included):
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  5. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #535

    Well my delided 8700k was in a death-ward spiral of CPU degradation. I guess 5 GHz @ 1.376v+ and maybe a few two many stress tests did it in. I would dial in an OC and it would run fine for a while , then I would do a short stress test and find corrected WHEA errors. Definitely electromigration kicking in - I would fix the OC, then repeat. It was a crappy sample to start out with.

    So I mulled over getting a 9700k or a 9900k or an 9086k. The factors I considered are
    1. I wanted to stay on air cooled (NH-D15) on at least 5 GHz. This sort of killed the idea of a 9900k.
    2. The 9700K, without the hyper-threading and less L3 cache/core , still had an advantage in the benchmarks I have seen, though not a lot
    3. The 9x00k processors had a little bit of the Spectre fixes moved into hardware, but they are not the fixes that incurred any performance hits.
    4. The 8086k is better binned, and will run cooler delided with LM than the 9700k with solder
    5. The 8086k is $30 less than the 9700k and $100 less than the 9900k

    So I picked up an 8086k. It is currently not delided.
    Right now it is running stable 5 GHz @ 1.232v about 5c cooler than my delided 8700k ever did. So I think I am a happy camper. Now I have to decide whether to delid it or not. I think that depends on what how far I can comfortably push it above 5 GHz.
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  6. Posts : 16,644
    Windows 11 Pro X64
       #536

    Geneo said:
    Well my delided 8700k was in a death-ward spiral of CPU degradation. I guess 5 GHz @ 1.376v+ and maybe a few two many stress tests did it in. I would dial in an OC and it would run fine for a while , then I would do a short stress test and find corrected WHEA errors. Definitely electromigration kicking in - I would fix the OC, then repeat. It was a crappy sample to start out with.

    So I mulled over getting a 9700k or a 9900k or an 9086k. The factors I considered are
    1. I wanted to stay on air cooled (NH-D15) on at least 5 GHz. This sort of killed the idea of a 9900k.
    2. The 9700K, without the hyper-threading and less L3 cache/core , still had an advantage in the benchmarks I have seen, though not a lot
    3. The 9x00k processors had a little bit of the Spectre fixes moved into hardware, but they are not the fixes that incurred any performance hits.
    4. The 8086k is better binned, and will run cooler delided with LM than the 9700k with solder
    5. The 8086k is $30 less than the 9700k and $100 less than the 9900k

    So I picked up an 8086k. It is currently not delided.
    Right now it is running stable 5 GHz @ 1.232v about 5c cooler than my delided 8700k ever did. So I think I am a happy camper. Now I have to decide whether to delid it or not. I think that depends on what how far I can comfortably push it above 5 GHz.
    Nice results, you did good!
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  7. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #537

    Dude said:
    Nice results, you did good!
    Thanks. But not on the 8700k tho. Burned that down pretty quick. LOL
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  8. Posts : 2,979
    Windows 11
       #538

    Geneo said:
    Thanks. But not on the 8700k tho. Burned that down pretty quick. LOL
    Are you saying that the delid destroyed your 8700K?
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  9. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #539

    Kol12 said:
    Are you saying that the delid destroyed your 8700K?


    In spite of it. I got one of the dregs left after all the binning.
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  10. Posts : 2,979
    Windows 11
       #540

    Geneo said:


    In spite of it. I got one of the dregs left after all the binning.
    Oh that's a shame, I take it this wasn't chip brought from Silicon lottery?
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