2018 Hardware Thread


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       #1691

    Cliff S said:
    At least if you are not prepared to also lap(sand down) the die also, as that is the real problem(die being very thick) and not the actual soldering.
    That is a lot of work too....which I sure would not do myself. Also could shorten the life of the 9900K .....nobody is completely sure yet.....
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       #1692

    Yeah must be the thick die as Cliff mentions.
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       #1693

    Bit of a trade off I guess if you want all that extra power.
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       #1694

    Lapping the die is only recommeneded for the real XOC geeks, who need every last millihertz out of their CPUs for compatition.
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       #1695

    Cliff S said:
    Lapping the die is only recommeneded for the real XOC geeks, who need every last millihertz out of their CPUs for compatition.
    When the heck are you getting your chip Cliff??? You pre-ordered it like 3 weeks ago...I thought those folks who did that, were 1st on the list to get their chips.....I am looking forward to see how you like it...
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       #1696

    OldMike65 said:
    When the heck are you getting your chip Cliff??? You pre-ordered it like 3 weeks ago...I thought those folks who did that, were 1st on the list to get their chips.....I am looking forward to see how you like it...
    They already have had chips for quite a while now, but just the tray ones.
    I ordered a boxed chip.
    Since my order the boxed versions were listed as Unknown.
    As of this morning(my time), they are listed as On order.
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       #1697

    Cliff S said:
    They already have had chips for quite a while now, but just the tray ones.
    I ordered a boxed chip.
    Since my order the boxed versions were listed as Unknown.
    As of this morning(my time), they are listed as On order.
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    What is the difference between the Tray or Boxed versions....? Just wondering..
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       #1698

    OldMike65 said:
    What is the difference between the Tray or Boxed versions....? Just wondering..
    Some come in trays(no packaging) and they are generally the ones cherry picked for delidding and "guaranteed XX MGHz.
    Boxed ones are in official Intel packaging(in this case the blue hexagon).


    Also:
    There is no quality difference between retail (boxed) and OEM (tray) processors. The differences as you already said are a shorter warranty period and you have to get a CPU cooler separately. Since you don't intend to use the stock cooler included in the boxed version anyway there is no reason not to bother with the OEM version, unless you really, really want the three year warranty from Intel.

    OEM versions are also generally sold for a lower price than the retail boxed version, part of the higher price for the retail versions covers the lengthier warranty period, as well as the stock cooler. OEM CPUs also tend to be more popular with overclockers, as overclocking mandates an aftermarket cooler, and overclocking also voids the warranty, so none of the additional benefits of the retail boxed version apply to those who intend to overclock their CPU.
    A boxed intel processor vs. a tray - CPUs - Toms Hardware
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       #1699

    Cliff S said:
    Some come in trays(no packaging) and they are generally the ones cherry picked for delidding and "guaranteed XX MGHz.
    Boxed ones are in official Intel packaging(in this case the blue hexagon).


    Also:

    A boxed intel processor vs. a tray - CPUs - Toms Hardware
    Thanks Cliff for the info....didn't know that.
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       #1700

    You're welcome Mike.
    Since this time I am not buying a delidded, I decided with a boxed(which is also sealed) version to take a chance on a really go overclocker, as Caseking, being an OEM has already picked out the good ones from the tray's, for their systems(they are also system builders) and delidded CPUs they sell, and if I ordered a un-delidded tray version, it probably OCs all cores only to Intel 9900K specs and not all cores to 5+ GHz.
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