1.    3 Weeks Ago #1
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 45
    windows 10

    major windows updates always screw finely tuned system


    Hello,
    relatively recently I installed new PC with 64-bit Windows10 Professional.
    I am a developper and I need couple of things being arranged differently
    than defaults. One of the things was to solve the default "run as administrator:
    processes having no access to LAN drives". OK I managed to solve it by changing
    settings in the policy editor.
    Now with the big update couple of days ago this has been restored back to default
    again. Processes run as administrator have no access to LAN drives.
    Is MS doing this purposely? Do I have to retune my system with every major
    update? Who is going to refundd me the time lost?
    I want to hear that the clown responsible for this got fired.
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  2.    3 Weeks Ago #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 29,078
    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Krejci View Post
    Hello,
    relatively recently I installed new PC with 64-bit Windows10 Professional.
    I am a developper and I need couple of things being arranged differently
    than defaults. One of the things was to solve the default "run as administrator:
    processes having no access to LAN drives". OK I managed to solve it by changing
    settings in the policy editor.
    Now with the big update couple of days ago this has been restored back to default
    again. Processes run as administrator have no access to LAN drives.
    Is MS doing this purposely? Do I have to retune my system with every major
    update? Who is going to refundd me the time lost?
    I want to hear that the clown responsible for this got fired.
    I can understand your frustration, but major updates occur only once every 6 months or so. The defaults set by MS are what they deem most suitable for the billions of systems in the world. Having to make a change with gpedit once every 6 months doesn't seem to be a major task. All of us (most) make some changes to the OS to suit our needs or preferences. This is just another one.
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  3.    3 Weeks Ago #3
    Join Date : Nov 2017
    Posts : 47
    win10

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Krejci View Post
    Is MS doing this purposely? Do I have to retune my system with every major
    update? Who is going to refund me the time lost?
    Apologies for off-topic, not directly related to network, but related to the question asked.

    Same experience as Roman, I had to update four v1511 home systems to v1709 because of end of v1511 support. It took many many hours, I cannot imagine this loss of time every six months. The problem is that MS major updates change intentionally configured settings to values disadvantageous to users without notifying them, furthermore they uninstall important applications and replace thoroughly selected and fine-tuned device drivers. It is beyond doubt that this vendors behavior is extremely unethical and dangerous for users privacy, system accessibility and data safety. Here are some examples what I had to resolve last week:

    Repairing changes in system configuration
    - deleting pointless recovery partition, reconstructing Windows Recovery Environment on C: as it was before
    - getting rid of useless Defender engine & suite as I use different antivirus software
    - reconstructing & reconfiguring of broken/unsuccessfully uninstalled Thinkpad Power Manager program (yes, I want to use and I will use this program although it was uninstalled by MS for the second time)
    - reinstalling of silently removed and now fully blocked Daemon Tools v4.47 (same as line above), it was really big challenge
    - replacing forcibly installed nvstor drivers (which caused BSODs and threatened Storage Spaces RAID1) by safe previous pciide
    - re-disabling System Restore because first Cumulative Update silently enabled it without notifying
    - re-disabling Device Driver Installation Settings which was changed to Yes/Auto by FCU
    - gaining control over Windows Update services again

    Repairing changes in user environment
    - reconfiguring of missed monitor color profiles
    - reconfiguring Power Plan settings & disabling Fast Startup option again
    - resetting many options back in PC Settings, for example:
    ...Start - Show most used apps & Show suggestions are suddenly enabled
    ...Search - Cloud & History should be disabled too
    ...Default Apps - MPC-HC needs re-registration
    ...and especially settings under Privacy; many of them was re-enabled by FCU (General, Notifications, Contacts, Tasks, Background Tasks, Diagnostics)

    Repairing new errors/annoyances in v1709 comparing to v1511
    - repairing broken lockscreen image mechanism if used at logon splash screen
    - re-applying Windows Photo Viewer registration but this program must be manually registered for every extension (png, jpg...) now, it cannot be selected as default for all picture formats at once
    - fixing problem that icons of objects from C:\Users\Public\Desktop do not retain its position displayed on users desktop on monitor screen
    - resolving new DCOM permission errors as usual

    All done, at least at home. But if Redmond guys think this is normal update behavior, they cannot wonder if they are regarded almost as enemies by many users and admins.
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  4.    3 Weeks Ago #4
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Houston
    Posts : 2,147
    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64

    Hi,
    In the beginning a new update build reverted all personal settings.
    Yes it gets very old and tiresome to keep redoing everything.

    It has gotten a little better but not near as good as it should be 2+ years after release.
    Not just personal settings but a lot of programs are being removed too.
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #5
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 45
    windows 10
    Thread Starter

    As far as I am concerned, I mostly experience: - Removal of the support old HLP file format. OK, I can uderstand this if it would have been done once. But I always reapply the fix, then in new upgrade the support disappears again. - my HP LaserJet LAN printer often (2 times out of 3 major upgrades) stops working. I have to unistall the driver and re-install it again. - And once the upgrade decided, that my second network card (My PC sits in two LANs) with fixed IP and blocked on the LAN #2 router so it is not connecting to the Internet through this particular route, is configured wrong, and activated DHCP for it, without notifying me. This one was very funny because, as you can imagine, strange things started to happen, especially when sending mails. But in the end, I must say that I am thankful for the fact that the system always managed to survive the upgrade, and booted fine after restart :-)
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