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  1.    29 Jul 2015 #1
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    Update: "This computer can not join/create homegroup"


    I've tried trouble shooters for homegroup and network
    I've tried enable ipv6
    I've tried making sure all necessary tasks are "running" in the services section of the network and sharing center
    I've tried making sure all my advanced homegroup settings were correct.
    I've tried disabling all homegroups on all other pcs
    I've tried finding the idstore.sst file to delete it (which doesn't exist on win10?) <<<fixed
    I've tried updating all network drivers.
    I've tried from a wireless network and hardlined
    all other computers can create and use homegroups other than my main pc.


    I also can not share folders, access is restricted somehow.

    UPDATE: both Peer Name Resolution Protocol (can't access key) and Peer Networking Grouping fail to start , I edited the log on info to all be the same (using methods described in link below) when I edited the info for Peer Networking Identity Manager it did inform me of saved changes, the only one to do so. PNIM is the only one of the three working.

    Some found this useful, hope you do to!
    Peer networking grouping service isnt running is the message. How - Microsoft Community

    this seems to be a Microsoft issue and I hope dearly for a fix soon. a shame it happened to my main pc and none of the other side ones in my house.

    UPDATE: I am trying to use Process Monitor to see which Key it can't access but I'm not entirely sure on what I'm looking for
    found this which told me what to do but not what I'm looking for
    Cant start the Peer Name Resolution Protocol service


    FINAL UPDATE!!!!! the final solution in the link below fixed my homegroup. it still saw an old homegroup from a secondary pc that didn't exist. but I just recreated the same homegroup on the secondary pc and viloa! I really hope we compiled most of the answers to homegrouping issues here. perhaps make this thread sticky??

    "Peer Name Resolution Protocol" Service Could not be Started and HomeGroup Is not Working - TechNet Forum Windows 7 Support Team - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
    Last edited by zombieaters; 16 Aug 2015 at 21:16.
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  2.    29 Jul 2015 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,424
    win 10 Insider

    You've done a lot of things!

    Presumably you have an OK IP no. Can you ping to any other comp and can others ping you.

    Have you got any third party AV or Firewalls installed?

    Have you tried disabling the firewall?
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  3.    30 Jul 2015 #3
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    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    You've done a lot of things!

    Presumably you have an OK IP no. Can you ping to any other comp and can others ping you.

    Have you got any third party AV or Firewalls installed?

    Have you tried disabling the firewall?
    Only Windows Defender. pings go threw just fine. and after your post I tried disabling firewall and defender. no luck
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  4.    30 Jul 2015 #4
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    My pc also, sometimes, only gives me the option to join a homegroup even though there isn't one created

    I've also tried deleting everything in disk cleanup, incluing all old versions of windows.
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  5.    30 Jul 2015 #5
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    win 10 Insider

    Couple of other questions. What is the history of this comp? Upgraded from earlier OS versions or new install?

    You say shares don't work. Is this both ways?

    What is the actual error message when you try sharing?

    Not sure that the request to join a non existent Homegroup is relevant as I had that for a while but seems to have got the message now!
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  6.    30 Jul 2015 #6
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    Windows 10 64 Pro

    I don't think you can do anything about this. Windows 8 could not talk to Windows 7 home groups either. AFAIK, you're out of luck until every PC on your network is running Windows 10.
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  7.    31 Jul 2015 #7
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    Windows 10

    not true


    Quote Originally Posted by rassilon View Post
    I don't think you can do anything about this. Windows 8 could not talk to Windows 7 home groups either. AFAIK, you're out of luck until every PC on your network is running Windows 10.
    This is not true. I was able to successfuly join my laptop (Windows 8.1) and desktop (Windows 7) in one Homegroup.

    However after upgrading to Windows 10, my laptop can't join/create a Homegroup!
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  8.    31 Jul 2015 #8
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    Windows 10 64 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by philipv View Post
    This is not true. I was able to successfuly join my laptop (Windows 8.1) and desktop (Windows 7) in one Homegroup.

    However after upgrading to Windows 10, my laptop can't join/create a Homegroup!
    My apologies. I left out a few key words. When Windows 8 first launched, Windows 7 and Windows 8 homegroups could not talk to each other. That was fixed later, so hopefully we'll have a solution in the near future.
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  9.    31 Jul 2015 #9
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    I upgraded my Windows 7 desktop and Windows 8.1 laptop to 10, I had a Homegroup working.


    Windows 10 told me that "homegroup is available." I attempted to join and enter the password. After a while I got a dialog box which stated "Windows no longer detects a HomeGroup on this network. To create a new HomeGroup, click OK and then open HomeGroup in control panel"
    Going to control panel only gave me the option to join an existing home group. There was no option to either delete this group or create a new one.
    The troubleshooter has not provided a solution.

    I found this in Windows help
    :-


    "The Peer Networking Grouping and HomeGroup Provider services must both be running. Here's how to check this:

    • Open Control Panel by swiping in from the right edge of the screen, tapping Search (or if you're using a mouse, pointing to the upper-right corner of the screen, moving the mouse pointer down, and then clickingSearch), entering Control Panel in the search box, and then tapping or clicking Control Panel.
    • Enter Administrative Tools in the Control Panel search box, then double-tap or double-click Services. You might be asked for an admin password or to confirm your choice. .

    In the Status column, next to the Peer Networking Grouping andHomeGroup Provider services, you should see the word Running. If you can't see this, double-tap or double-click the name of the service, tap or click Start, then tap or click OK."

    I checked this on both computers and both were ok, however I noticed that on my desktop HomeGroup Listener was not running so I changed that and lo and behold I was then able to create a new Homegroup (new password generated) and everything is now fine.


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  10.    02 Aug 2015 #10
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Posts : 123
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    I had this problem and this worked for me:

    Modify IPv6 registry key to enable IPV6
    ==========================
    a. Click Start, type regedit in Search Bar, and then click regedit in the Programs list.

    Note: If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type your password or click Continue.

    b. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\TCPIP6\Parameters

    c. Check whether the "DisabledComponents" registry key exists. If so, let's move on the next steps.

    d. Double click the "DisabledComponents" registry key and modify the value to 0.

    (If the key doesn't exist, please create the key above and assign the value 0)

    e. Exit Registry Editor, and then restart the computer.
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