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  1.    03 Jun 2017 #1
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    Posts : 47
    Windows 10/64

    One PC Can't find others on the same network


    I have 3 PC's and a laptop on a homegroup/network

    All computers were able to see and access files and external
    hard drives - until a power failure.

    Now, one computer displays the other 3 computers / by name
    under "network"

    However, when I click on any of the icons in network, this error
    message comes up:
    *********************************
    Network Error
    Windows cannot access \\Supercomputer (or any of the other
    computers)

    Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a
    problem with your network. To try to identify network problems
    ,click Diagnose.

    It also shows Error Code: 0x80070035 - the network path was not
    found

    (I do not understand why we cannot "right click/copy" error messages?????)

    the message reads something to the affect of... can't find it..
    make sure it's turned on and connected to the network..
    ****************************************

    If the little computer can't find the other computers, how/why
    is it displaying their names in "Network"??

    I have 2 external drives that I use between all of the computers
    and it's a royal PITB to not be able to access them from this one
    PC.

    Someone made a work around for me (unfortunately, I don't
    remember what they did) - and during the last power outage,
    the work around broke

    I have tried turning the firewalls off... no difference

    I have dumped all computers from homegroup and set a new one
    up... no difference...

    I will greatly appreciate a solution or work around for this issue.

    OS - Windows 10/64 on all computers.
    3 on DSL
    Laptop on wifi

    Thank you
    Karen
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  2.    04 Jun 2017 #2
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 - 1607

    Check that the names map to the correct IP addresses.

    On an invisible computer, open a command window and get the IP address using

    > ipconfig

    The active IP will probably be found in the entry for 'Local Area Connection', it will be something like 192.168.0.<something>. The 0 could be a 1. The address you're looking for is the IPv4 address.

    Now go to the computer that can't see the others and ping the name through a command window:

    > ping <invisible>

    The ping will return the IP address for the name. If the IP listed for the name does not match the IP of the lost computer, then try

    > ping <invisible's real IP>

    If you get a response then you have a DNS issue.

    > ipconfig /flushdns

    The open in notepad : C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

    and add to that file the entry for your invisible computer

    192.168.0.<whatever> myinvisiblecomputer

    Save the file, then try your connection through the name.

    This will be a 'permanent' fix only if the invisible computer has a static IP. If you are using DHCP then you may have an issue after rebooting the invisible computer.
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  3.    04 Jun 2017 #3
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 27
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

    Hi Karen. If you get this fixed I hope you will either post the fix or mark a response as being the fix. I have been chasing this problem for a week now. I won't say that I've tried everything since I clearly haven't tried the thing that fixes it. I'm beginning to think my problem is with the Win10 Creator Update (1703) and I just recently noticed it because I don't open the Network folder very often.
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  4.    04 Jun 2017 #4
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    Posts : 47
    Windows 10/64
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by hymanwallace View Post
    Check that the names map to the correct IP addresses.

    On an invisible computer, open a command window and get the IP address using

    > ipconfig

    The active IP will probably be found in the entry for 'Local Area Connection', it will be something like 192.168.0.<something>. The 0 could be a 1. The address you're looking for is the IPv4 address.

    Now go to the computer that can't see the others and ping the name through a command window:

    > ping <invisible>

    The ping will return the IP address for the name. If the IP listed for the name does not match the IP of the lost computer, then try

    > ping <invisible's real IP>

    If you get a response then you have a DNS issue.

    > ipconfig /flushdns

    The open in notepad : C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

    and add to that file the entry for your invisible computer

    192.168.0.<whatever> myinvisiblecomputer

    Save the file, then try your connection through the name.

    This will be a 'permanent' fix only if the invisible computer has a static IP. If you are using DHCP then you may have an issue after rebooting the invisible computer.
    ********************************
    I did the ipconfig for "supercomputer" (one with the external
    hard drives that need to be used by all PC's)

    This is what came back:

    Windows IP Configuration

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::79d9:dacd:dfbc:b239%11
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

    Ethernet adapter Ethernet 2:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    I copied 192.168.1.16 and went to "little computer"
    and pinged that IP address and this is what came
    back:


    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping 192.168.1.16

    Pinging 192.168.1.16 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 192.168.1.16: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.16: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.16: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.16: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.16:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

    and this is sort of where I get lost with your directions.

    I will greatly appreciate more clairification....

    "Little Computer" - one that cannot access other PC/hard drives
    In the network
    "Super Computer" - one that has the external hard drives necessary
    for ALL computers <== "invisible computer" ???

    "If the IP listed for the name does not match the IP of the lost computer, then try..."

    Thank you so very much for your help

    Karen
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  5.    04 Jun 2017 #5
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    Posts : 47
    Windows 10/64
    Thread Starter

    I may have misunderstood ....

    I just went to little computer and entered

    >ping supercomputer and the result
    Ping request could not find host SuperComputer. Please check
    the name and try again.

    I did the same on supercomputer for little computer
    and this is what came back

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping little-computer

    Pinging Little-computer [fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms

    Ping statistics for fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>

    To the best of my knowledge, the IP addresses are
    static

    do I flush dns cache on both?

    **this goes in Little-Computer: ?????

    Then open in notepad : C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
    and Add this: 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer ???

    I just followed the path and took a look at hosts

    I have a vague recollection of hearing the easiest way
    to edit "hosts" is to drag it over to your desktop - add
    what you want to add / save and drop it back into the
    etc folder????

    and, is this what the line should read:

    # 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer

    and, does it matter where this is placed on the
    hosts page?

    If I want to access the other two computers, I will
    do the same process for them?

    thank you many bunches... I hope I've got this straight

    I'll wait for your confirmation or correction before
    proceeding.

    ginormous hugs to you
    Karen
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  6.    04 Jun 2017 #6
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 - 1607

    Yes. If we are on track, then the addition to your hosts file should do the trick. The line you suggest is correct.

    You can put it anywhere in the hosts file though it is standard to put it after the first group of entries. It is important that the modified file be in the same location. Do not save it to your desktop.

    If you navigate via command file to the etc directory and then

    >notepad hosts

    Then change and save the file in notepad you will leave the file in the correct place.

    Good luck.



    Quote Originally Posted by kstavert View Post
    I may have misunderstood ....

    I just went to little computer and entered

    >ping supercomputer and the result
    Ping request could not find host SuperComputer. Please check
    the name and try again.

    I did the same on supercomputer for little computer
    and this is what came back

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping little-computer

    Pinging Little-computer [fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms

    Ping statistics for fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>

    To the best of my knowledge, the IP addresses are
    static

    do I flush dns cache on both?

    **this goes in Little-Computer: ?????

    Then open in notepad : C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
    and Add this: 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer ???

    I just followed the path and took a look at hosts

    I have a vague recollection of hearing the easiest way
    to edit "hosts" is to drag it over to your desktop - add
    what you want to add / save and drop it back into the
    etc folder????

    and, is this what the line should read:

    # 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer

    and, does it matter where this is placed on the
    hosts page?

    If I want to access the other two computers, I will
    do the same process for them?

    thank you many bunches... I hope I've got this straight

    I'll wait for your confirmation or correction before
    proceeding.

    ginormous hugs to you
    Karen
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  7.    04 Jun 2017 #7
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 - 1607

    Yes. If we are on track, then the addition to your hosts file should do the trick. The line you suggest is correct.

    You can put it anywhere in the hosts file though it is standard to put it after the first group of entries. It is important that the modified file be in the same location. Do not save it to your desktop.

    If you navigate via command line to the etc directory and then

    >notepad hosts

    Then change and save the file in notepad you will leave the file in the correct place.

    Good luck.



    Quote Originally Posted by kstavert View Post
    I may have misunderstood ....

    I just went to little computer and entered

    >ping supercomputer and the result
    Ping request could not find host SuperComputer. Please check
    the name and try again.

    I did the same on supercomputer for little computer
    and this is what came back

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping little-computer

    Pinging Little-computer [fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms
    Reply from fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11: time<1ms

    Ping statistics for fe80::148a:8903:dd95:15b4%11:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>

    To the best of my knowledge, the IP addresses are
    static

    do I flush dns cache on both?

    **this goes in Little-Computer: ?????

    Then open in notepad : C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
    and Add this: 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer ???

    I just followed the path and took a look at hosts

    I have a vague recollection of hearing the easiest way
    to edit "hosts" is to drag it over to your desktop - add
    what you want to add / save and drop it back into the
    etc folder????

    and, is this what the line should read:

    # 192.168.1.16 SuperComputer

    and, does it matter where this is placed on the
    hosts page?

    If I want to access the other two computers, I will
    do the same process for them?

    thank you many bunches... I hope I've got this straight

    I'll wait for your confirmation or correction before
    proceeding.

    ginormous hugs to you
    Karen
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  8.    04 Jun 2017 #8
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 - 1607

    Oh wait, Karen. I noticed that the line you propose begins with #

    The # tells the parser to ignore the line so you will want

    192.168.1.16 SuperComputer

    your file should look something like this
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    ## This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    ## This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
    # space.
    ## Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    ## For example:
    ## 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.# 127.0.0.1 localhost# ::1 localhost

    192.168.1.16 SuperComputer




    Last edited by hymanwallace; 04 Jun 2017 at 16:33. Reason: restore formatting of hosts
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  9.    04 Jun 2017 #9
    Join Date : May 2017
    Posts : 11
    Win10Pro

    possible help..............


    Quote Originally Posted by kstavert View Post
    I have 3 PC's and a laptop on a homegroup/network

    All computers were able to see and access files and external
    hard drives - until a power failure.

    Now, one computer displays the other 3 computers / by name
    under "network"

    However, when I click on any of the icons in network, this error
    message comes up:
    *********************************
    Network Error
    Windows cannot access \\Supercomputer (or any of the other
    computers)

    Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a
    problem with your network. To try to identify network problems
    ,click Diagnose.

    It also shows Error Code: 0x80070035 - the network path was not
    found

    (I do not understand why we cannot "right click/copy" error messages?????)

    the message reads something to the affect of... can't find it..
    make sure it's turned on and connected to the network..
    ****************************************

    If the little computer can't find the other computers, how/why
    is it displaying their names in "Network"??

    I have 2 external drives that I use between all of the computers
    and it's a royal PITB to not be able to access them from this one
    PC.

    Someone made a work around for me (unfortunately, I don't
    remember what they did) - and during the last power outage,
    the work around broke

    I have tried turning the firewalls off... no difference

    I have dumped all computers from homegroup and set a new one
    up... no difference...

    I will greatly appreciate a solution or work around for this issue.

    OS - Windows 10/64 on all computers.
    3 on DSL
    Laptop on wifi

    Thank you
    Karen


    Karen,
    if you haven't found a solution I suggest this:

    drop the homegroup

    enroll all computers in a workgroup.......... MSHOME... is fine

    each machine should issue a Welcome to MSHOME

    reboot each machine

    all shares in all machines should appear under computer names in Network folder on each machine

    to add the external drives dbl click Network and use Add Devices from the menu

    if any device is not listed...............

    go to This PC and use Add Network location

    this should give you a shortcut on C:\ for that device
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  10.    04 Jun 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Crewe Cheshire
    Posts : 1,466
    windows 10

    Your post from ipconfig seems incomplete
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::79d9:dacd:dfbc:b239%11
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

    Doesnt it state dns

    Does it have netbios running if it doesnt then it wont be seen by pcs as thats whats used on lan to find pcs
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