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Updates and Wired / Wireless Connection Issues
First, some background, I've been a PC tech for years and currently work as a programmer. I've built and configured hundreds of machines and I know how to systematically observe and troubleshoot issues.
I own three machines, an HTPC on WIN 10, my development machine on Win 7, and my wife's WIN 10 personal machine.
Trials and tribulations began when after a forced update my HTPC would no longer connect to the internet... after an hour of jacking with the Realtek Gbe drivers for the motherboard and seeing tons of complaints and went to the local store bought a standalone card slapped it in the machine (new hardware should fix it, right?)... Wrong. Same issue. After more time and internet browsing and seeing a common thread (Realtek)... I determined the motherboard must be borked... I ordered a new one. Not an hour after I clicked "purchase" ... my wife called me. She couldn't connect to the internet. Huh... what a coincidence... checked her drivers... yes, Realtek... yes, she'd just gotten an update. Okay... so now... three adapters... all realtek... all stop working after a windows update... This is NOT a hardware problem...
I looked into this... spending tons of time researching. Power management was a component and forced driver updates. I turned off power-management of the onboard NICs and that granted a little more stability.
I was feeling really pissed because I had purchased $500 worth of hardware to fix Microsoft's introduced issue.
The new motherboard had an Intel NIC on board. After a fresh install of windows... it worked. On my HTPC nothing would make it work right. I bought a standalone Intel NIC and ---STILL--- the disconnections persisted. Only after I completely reinstalled windows 10 did the problem go away after I turned off power management, and driver updates.
Last night on my wife's machine which has been stable ever since the complete rebuild, I put a new GTX 1070 video card in there. The nVidia WHQL drivers would not install on her "old build of windows 10". I clicked okay on the update. On the new version the drivers installed. She played on it the rest of the night.... NO ISSUES.
This morning... the machine was back at the login because an update had been pushed.
And the connection issue is back.
I will no doubt be boxing with this problem for another few hours. I have wasted hours and hours on this. Looking through forum posts with MS experts laying blame at the feet of drivers and bad hardware. I don't buy cheap equipment, I purchase for stability. After hours of screwing with computers at work, I don't want to come home and do my own tech support!
This is super frustrating issue for non-technical users. Having to reinstall windows to fix corruption caused by a forced update is RIDICULOUS. Hours of time wasted because something was "fixed" that didn't need to be touched. With multiple machines, I can verify that this is not hardware or driver related. It's something related to the TCP stack in windows getting jacked and crashing.
For people experiencing this issue it seems worst with the Realtek based cards, I was never able to achieve stability after the anniversary update. With the Intel NICs I was able to achieve stability by ripping out the stock Microsoft drivers ... this can be quite frustrating as windows slams another copy in almost before you can log out. It needs to be done in safe mode... However, Microsoft if you're listening ... disabling the MSI installer and the Repair functionality in while in SAFE MODE is perhaps the stupidest thing ever conceived.
Anyways, there are utilities that will allow you to run MSI installers in safe mode... so that you can run the Intel driver installer if you get to the desperation point that I did where I couldn't flippin uninstall the drivers in regular mode.
Bottom line a REAL solution for this issue needs to be published. Having the issue happen 5 times (3 times on one machine, twice on another) with various NICs means this is no driver / hardware issue. These are machines that run stably for months at a time and mysteriously and coincidentally stop working right after an update. I would like to add throughout all 5 incidents... the Windows 7 has NEVER had any such issues despite having similar hardware and even a Realtek NIC. Further the same hardware (like the purchased Realtek NIC) work fine on that Win 7 build but failed in both the Win 10 machines.
It would be nice if somebody has gone through this and has the steps to reproduce a stable fix that DOESN'T INVOLVE A FULL REINSTALL.