WSD vs Netbios Network Discovery

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  1. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #11

    Hi folks.

    Sorry I can't answer the query but a PLEASE to any Ms staffer etc reading these Forums (and Im sure they do). :

    Can you get some sort of Networking that just works straight out of the box so people's NAS's, Linux Samba servers,Androids phones, tablets,iPhones, Smart TV's and of course other Windows laptops/computers!! can see and connect to Windows shares (and the other way around too - Windows should be able to connect to those devices).

    I've been using Windows since Windows 3.11 that's a long time - and Windows Networking has always been randomly problematic.

    I've also used Linux for years too -- and Linux Networking has for me always worked straight out of the box - only rarely if using some rare type of Wifi hardware was there a problem --certainly never had problem on LAN's.

    Networking is an essential these days -- even for small "mom and pop" installations - so PLEASE Ms FIX IT.

    For the rest I like Windows 10 - easiest install and apart from Networking least problematic Windows yet so don't undo all the good work by hosing up Networking nearly every time there's an update. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. lintek25475's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home
       #12

    I guess this post should be considered "solved".
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  3. sewing1243's Avatar
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    Windows 10/64
    Thread Starter
       #13

    According to this article on Technet (Stop using SMB1 | Storage at Microsoft) SMBv1 is dead, The network folder in file explorer will no longer populate properly unless you go through a whole lot of garbage every time you reboot or you'll manually have to search for assets on the remote PCs. In a small home or business network that is BS. One shouldn't need a Microsoft certified tech or admin to run a 4 PC peer to peer network...which is what HomeGroup was supposed to do, but making it work is an even bigger pain in the neck (I finally have a semi stable HomeGroup, but what it took to get there was unbelievable and I couldn't tell you for sure how I managed it...and now it's going away in the next big update).
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  4. bmazak's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Version 1909 current
       #14

    Eagle51 said:
    I've found those 2 need to be set to Automatic Delayed and yes it does take a few seconds for things to show up in File Explorer > Network.

    Granted I don't have a Win7 PC in the mix and I know it doesn't help you, but I just did a clean install (1709) on my son's laptop and it sees the other 2 Win10 PC's on my network using WSD and SMBv2/v3 ... So it can/does work ...

    Note: If I have time I'll disable Netbios and see what happens.

    1. Discovery Type shows as WSD
    2. Netbios is set to default for the adaptors
    3. SMBv1 NOT installed/enable
    4. FDRP and FDPH startup type set to Automatic Delayed and they are running
    5. SSDP startup type set to Manual and it is running
    6. Computer Browser startup type set to Disabled
    Note: Since it's tied to SMBv1 ... I don't think it matters what it's set to, when SMBv1 is not installed.
    7. HGP and HGL startup type set to Disabled
    Here's the problem with these kinds of comments. Not enough detail. What type and make of router do you have. Are you WIFI or Wired? What is HGP? Is Computer Browser running on other PC's? I understand that Microsoft is opting out on displaying "PCs" at all and Network is going away, want to be like Apple. Are you mapping locations between computers? The only thing I see after setting up your configuration, one a Win 7, is the MediaStream Lib that is only display on the local for itself, and the Router displays on all PC's which really is the only device this configurations picks up in Network. Mappings to other PC's works fin and are reconnected at boot. What a waste of time. By the way it seems redundant to specify Netbios at all. 2 Win 10's and one Win 7 One win 10 is a laptop which act differently than the desk top. And for those who have messed up there Network setting there is a Reset network that works just great. I would do that first before touching anything else. You find it in the list, just before Have a question?, for Status in Network & Internet in Settings.
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